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Vita Launch Will Be "A Car Wreck" says UFC Trainer Dev

Posted by James Newton

Not a fan, then...

In a world of corporate spin and carefully worded PR speak, it's rare to hear a developer truly speak what he or she feels. That's not the case with Lyle Hall and Matthew Seymour of UFC Personal Trainer: The Ultimate Fitness System developer Heavy Iron Studio though, as they recently let fly with a few jabs at Sony's upcoming super-portable.

Hall believes there are lessons to be learnt from the 3DS's slow sales so far, saying:

If people aren't willing to pay $249 for a Nintendo 3DS why would they pay $299 for Vita? People don't want to carry more than one thing in their pocket, that’s why Android and iPhone have done so well, they are the devices of choice, they offers multiple functions outside of gaming

Just as Vita does, of course. It was Seymour who really spoke out about the machine's chances at launch though:

With all due respects to Sony and Vita, it's a car wreck. And how about Xperia Play? I'd love to pull up the numbers on that.

Of course, Xperia Play hasn't received anywhere near the marketing that Vita undoubtedly will, but has the tide shifted too far one way: do consumers want a machine that's predominantly gaming or a useful device that offers gaming on the side?

We want to know your thoughts, so let 'em loose in the comments below.

[via gamesindustry.biz]

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User Comments (14)

gambitttt

#1

gambitttt said:

Ya first 1. I didnt mind the 3ds price that much or the vitas. but since the price drop of the 3ds its going to hurt sony a little if not a lot on sales. Sony allready has the price on the vita pretty low considering all the hardware in it, so it will be even harder to lower or match the 3ds's new price. I cant wait to see how they battle it out.

Love Vita/3DS Gamer

Tatsumaru

#2

Tatsumaru said:

The games this guy was under development are awful, what does he knows about video games?
And vita offers much more than the 3DS, and diferent from him, he'll have GAMES, real games, not those 1 dollar disposeable games you get on the iPhone.
Seriously, the VITA is made for people who actually care about they gamming and want really quality stuff, comparing the vite with a iPhone it's completely ignorance.

Marzo

#4

Marzo said:

Gee, this companies' absence on the Vita will surely be felt, and we really needed those Spongebob games too...

gamrgod5

#5

gamrgod5 said:

@Tatsumaru Sure! Because the Vita also doubles as your personal teleporter, time machine, and full size refrigerator with its huge nuclear plant for a battery. What would the Vita offer that the 3DS doesn't have that to live I would need?

I do genuinely believe the Vita will sell well, but please, for Sony's small amount of honor, don't compare it to the 3DS.

BTW, is that a DS cartridge with "Play Station" on it?

hamispink

#6

hamispink said:

@gamrgod5 well the obvious answers would be robust online functions, trophies, and more control options(dual analog sticks mainly) granted those things are important to me but not to everybody.
Don't get me wrong I bought a 3DS, and I am largely impressed with the hardware, and I don't doubt Nintendo will deliver with software.
and yes, the vita does support cartridge retail games, as well as same day psn downloads.

Slapshot

#7

Slapshot said:

Haha, Seymor is a former Microsoft Games Studios staffer, and it's quite obvious where his loyalties are.

@gamrgod5 I feel the same way you do about Vita and 3DS being compared together, but it's inevitable and we'll just have to get used to it. They are the only two current gen handheld consoles and they will always be compared.

To answer your second question, that is what the Vita game cartridges will look like. :)

Strider_Hiryu

#8

Strider_Hiryu said:

I think he does have a point, but he's taking it way too far. Dedicated handheld gaming consoles are not finished yet, and I think consumers still see the value of PS Vita and the 3DS. As for why one should spend 249$ on the PSP successor, Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Little Deviants are there to show you.

ChaosX007

#9

ChaosX007 said:

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[First of 3DS and Vita are completely different, why on earth would they do the same~

Also I wouldn't trust some guy who's into sports to the point that his job somehow involves them on his idea of what gaming consoles is gonna do well or not : |

Vita can emulate what seems to be ps3 graphics, what smartphone can do that? HMMMMMMMMMMMM?

Vita is made for gaming so it's not gonna be running some os in the background while playing the game at the same time that is why it'll have the edge despite apparently using the same cpu

Also phones suck for gaming so once again no comparison

3DS was bound to fail, first off, it uses 3d big woop but people said its graphics were gonna be better than vita.. well guess what THEY AREN'T actually I don't even know if they can top some of the psp titles out there now though dunno~. : | They all assumed because of the processor was better (compaired to what? the psp?) or whatever that it was gonna be better, well let me tell you this, 3D means you need at minimum like 3 times the power to process the same images in 3d than in 2d : | You can learn this by running the psp 3d plugin and watch as it takes forever to run from one side of the screen to the other. SO THEY ALL DOOPING UP IN THERE~

Vita is going to be fine. : |

Also phones suck for gaming so once again no comparison

3DS was bound to fail, first off, it uses 3d big woop but people said its graphics were gonna be better than vita.. well guess what THEY AREN'T actually I don't even know if they can top some of the psp titles out there now though dunno~. : | They all assumed because of the processor was better (compaired to what? the psp?) or whatever that it was gonna be better, well let me tell you this, 3D means you need at minimum like 3 times the power to process the same images in 3d than in 2d : | You can learn this by running the psp 3d plugin and watch as it takes forever to run from one side of the screen to the other. SO THEY ALL DOOPING UP IN THERE~]

Unca_LzStaff

#11

Unca_Lz said:

I agree. Who would buy a 3G model for $299 (plus tax and maybe other fees) and AT&T service? :D

Magi

#12

Magi said:

@Iz20XX me! :) I spent $750 on three 3DS consoles. (granted I got a bit of that back from the good folks at Best Buy). $300ish for a Vita isn't a worry. Plus, I'm already being screwed by AT&T so another 10 bucks a month (if that's what it is) isn't going to kill me. I'd rather have the capability and not need it than need the capability and not have it.

Rambo-Hamster

#14

Rambo-Hamster said:

The games this developer makes are really laughable. Scooby-Doo, Spongebob, Ratatouille, and The Incredibles. I think they're just upset that Sony doesn't want that garbage at launch for the Vita :p

If any launch was a car wreck, it was the 3DS's. They shipped buttloads of units and a fraction of them sold. Now, with the price drop, they're moving more, but it required a 32% drop in price to do that. So personally, I feel the 3DS was more like a car wreck than the Vita's future launch will be. Now, it definitely wasn't a car wreck. The 3DS is moderately successful. But it was closer to that stupid term than the Vita will ever be.

And yes, @gamrgod5, we shouldn't compare the Vita and 3DS. They're on different levels. One is comparable to PS3 and Xbox 360 in terms of capabilities, and the other struggles to best the PSP. In terms of games, one have a slew of amazing launch titles and remakes ready to clean out our wallets, while the other was launched so early that the only games worth playing (both of which are over a decade old) weren't out for a couple more months. So yeah, incomparable indeed.

Now, to further show how small-minded and biased this developer is, we need to see what exactly would cause a "car wreck" of a launch. In order for the Vita to have a horrid launch like this (unaccomplished) developer hints at, it needs to have: a) little to no 3rd party support, b) limited capabilities, thus making games more limited, c) an expensive and hard to use dev kit that puts developers off greatly, thus cutting down on quality games, d) almost no 1st party backing at the time of system launch, and e) a mindset that one can live on brand alone and not fix the flaws of the past.

Oh wait, those are all things Nintendo did with the 3DS. It has no 3rd party support. It's the bottleneck for it's games. Developers continuously bemoan the expensive and obtuse dev kit for the 3DS. It had no 1st party support at launch. And finally, the idea that adding 3D is fine, but to only add 3D? That's not innovation, Nintendo just got complacent. And yet, the 3DS launch wasn't a car wreck. So how can the Vita, which looks to improve in every single one of those categories, be a car wreck of a launch?

Like I said, just because your development teams literally can't do anything but garbage licensed movie games, doesn't mean that the system you fail at developing for will have a bad launch. I'm pretty sure they do this crap all the time, seeing how nonchalantly they insult the Vita. If they spent that time improving their development processes and making actually decent games, then maybe everyone and their mother wouldn't disregard what Heavy Iron Studios says and does.

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