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johncalmc

ztpayne7 wrote:

@johncalmc: Look at it this way, too - Nintendo was dividing their games between the Wii U and the 3DS. Now there's the possibility every game that would have come out for a handheld and console will now be available on one consolidated system. I think there's a lot of potential in that.

As for me, I don't really care for the name, but I'm definitely interested. I just hope it's comfortable somehow.

This is the best thing about it. That and meaning I'll be able to play Pokemon on my TV if I get one.

I just want to see more information about it in terms of features and UI and everything because the central gimmick - it's essentially a handheld with an HDMI Out port - does little for me. Does it have achievements? What's the battery life? How much storage? Can we play old games? Depending on the answers to these questions and more, I'm either going to be excited for this or I'll just be giving up on Nintendo hardware.

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It looks really kinda revolutionary and I can't wait to see more of it.

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BAMozzy

I see they copied the Xbox controller essentially for its layout - not complaining - just an observation!

Not sure yet about whether I would purchase this. It really depends on the games. I don't have any interest in 'mobile' gaming and certainly wouldn't bother with 'Skyrim' knowing I could buy on PS4/XB1 and have a better looking game. Yes its great if you want the option to play these on the move but all my gaming is done in the comfort of my home on a big screen so the games are most important rather than the portability. I also think those 'Joycon' controllers look tiny when separated off.

As it stands at the moment, its an interesting concept but unlikely to suit my gaming needs

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get2sammyb

BAMozzy wrote:

As it stands at the moment, its an interesting concept but unlikely to suit my gaming needs

I feel the same. If I'm playing on a TV, then I'm going to do it on the PS4. If I'm going out and about, then at best I'm playing a game on my phone.

It's not for me. I realised with the Vita that portables just don't fit my lifestyle.

ztpayne7

@get2sammyb: The thing I like is that on the wii u, the gamepad doesn't reach to the bedroom. So I have to save my game, turn it off, unplug the entire system, bring it back to my bedroom which doesn't have a tv, and plug it randomly in somewhere to play at bedtime. While I don't play much on the go, being able to play freely in any room in my house is a big deal for me.

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Bad-MuthaAdebisi

Never liked Nintendo games never owned a Nintendo console but I'm vaguely interested for maybe next December around. Could keep me busy until PS5. A console Pokemon would probably do it for me.

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BAMozzy

@get2sammyb: The last handheld I owned was the Nintendo DS but the only time it got used was whilst waiting for my Doctors appointment. Games that had any depth to them, I struggled to get into with limited use and I would rather buy a 'tablet' for more functionality than a hand held gaming device.

I have a PS4 and Xbox One already as well as my PS3 and XB360 in my bedroom so not short of gaming options in my house. I doubt I would buy a 'Switch' to play games I can play on these at higher visual quality and don't want/need the portability. Cost and game library may change my opinion but the new Zelda doesn't really appeal at the moment - it doesn't look like a 'Zelda' game should or look like a 21st century game to me so even the 'flagship' launch title looks mediocre. If the whole package is 'reasonable' and we get a decent library of games - not just 360/PS3 ports - I maybe tempted but not by Mario Kart 27, Super Mario 126, Mario 3D 12......

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Utena-mobile

Switch look awesome!! I love it already. From the size of the screen, to the little tiny cute controllers, the "joy cons." And I like how Skyrim was shown. It hints at much better 3rd party support than the Wii U. Perhaps what I like most about it is how I can take multiplayer with me on the go. Being able to take this to my friends' house and play Mario Kart, or take it to work and do some Smash during my break sound better than doing the half-console upgrade shuffle.

The only thing that really worries me is, frankly, Nintendo of America. If the console is region locked I'm not looking forward to another gen of censorship and lack of localization. Nintendo has shown again and again that they're willing to experiment and take chances on games, I wonder why that doesn't carry over to NoA?

Region Lock (or lack of it) is the one thing keeping me from going full onboard the hype train with Switch right now. But I'll probably own one 2-3 years from now either way.

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KratosMD

@BAMozzy: Do you even play or like Nintendo games at all? Because you seem rather out of touch when it comes to them. Zelda doesn't look like a 21st century game? It's the closest to a Skyrim clone that a Nintendo IP is going to get and it's seemingly also the most ambitious Zelda game ever with a sandbox map to explore and a more intricate gameplay system. Mario Kart is among the franchises that sell the most on Nintendo systems and Mario Kart 8 is an amazing experience, especially now with it getting an enhanced version on the Switch. Also, people have been yearning for a real 3D Mario game for a long time now and it seems that we'll be finally getting one judging by the content shown in the trailer. It could be another 3D World game and in that case, I would agree with you that it wouldn't catch my attention as much then, but if it's a 3D Mario game in the spirit of Super Mario 64 then it's a pretty exciting time to be a Nintendo fan.

As a person who plays all kinds of games and has especially been playing on Nintendo longer than on any other consoles, what has been shown is extremely exciting. The reason for that being that Nintendo has been holding back on its IPs for far too long now. The Wii U era was an embarrassment with so many linear and 2D Nintendo games (which could also be said about the Wii era) and now seeing how the Switch era is going to bring in more ambitious titles, it's finally a good time to get in on some real Nintendo gaming.

Now, even though I thought that previous Nintendo eras was an "embarrassment", I still did like the games. But Nintendo can make much better and more ambitious games than what they have previously done. We have seen the likes of Super Mario 64, which set the bar high, so why make something like Super Mario 3D World? 3D World was a fun game, but it's not what we should expect from the company that made Super Mario 64. We should expect more and seemingly, our expectations seem to finally be fulfilled.

My point is that people should finally be excited for some true ambitious Nintendo games just like in the old days. But if you're not interested in Nintendo games at all, then there's absolutely no reason to even consider buying their consoles to begin with. Nobody buys a Nintendo system for its third-party support anymore and it's been that case for decades. You buy them for the first-party exclusives, so if you don't like them, then there's a fat chance that you will ever get the console.

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@KratosMD: Seems I touched a nerve there!

Zelda doesn't look like it carries on many of the traditional elements of a Zelda game - like digging smashing/chopping for rupee's for example and wouldn't look out of place in the indie section. It still relies on a very antiquated text based conversation system - understandable on Gameboys and N64 but hardly 21st century!

I grew up on Nintendo - one of the first 'home' computer games I played was Donkey Kong on the BBC Model B. I also owned a number of the Game and Watch handhelds, an original monochrome Gameboy, even a Virtual Boy too alongside NES, SNES, N64 etc. The last hand held I owned was a Nintendo DS and the last Nintendo console I owned was the Wii so don't tell me I don't know or have like Nintendo games! Difference is I evolved and grew up - Nintendo, well as far as games go as their hardware has and still looks to be very innovative! I still think the N64 was the greatest and most innovative console but that was over 20 years ago!

Mario Kart 2 was by far the best Mario Kart and whilst I did enjoy Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing and Crash Tag Team basically made Mario Kart redundant and 'old school' - to me they are now nothing more than a blast from the past. I lost track of how many slight variations of the 2D Mario platforming games I played - the last was on the Wii which I got bored of very quickly - I lost interest in 2D platformers generally when SM64 to platforming to whole new dimension. Talking of 3D Platforming - that gradually evolved beyond the mindless collecting, adding more story, adding more character development etc - essentially leading to games like Uncharted and Assassins Creed.

Nintendo used to offer a lot of 3rd party games - forgetting about hand helds - look at games like Turok, Shadowman, PES, Fifa, Doom, Quake etc all on N64. Resident Evil also appeared on N64 as well and FF7 was originally planned for N64 too. Sonic appeared on Wii as did Super Monkey Ball. It also helped launch a lot of the dance party games. Part of the reason that the WiiU failed was lack of 3rd Party support - porting old games to the hardware. Why spend £200+ to play games you already own and can play on far superior hardware that look and run better? Yes Nintendo's first party line up is important to the success of the 'Switch' but so is 3rd Party support and bringing new experiences or at least innovation to its classic franchises. I think it needs more than innovative hardware! I want to play games like Mass Effect, RDR2, Destiny, Horizon, Days Gone etc, not some blast from the past superficial kiddy game with prettier graphics.

Its not that I dislike Nintendo or their games as they will always hold a special part in my heart for their large part in my gaming life but I grew up!

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@Tasuki: Thanks. Looks like they don't want to confirm any of the games that appeared in the trailer whether they'll actually be on the console either.

So far IGN listed only these games:

  • The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
  • Untitled Mario Game
  • Splatoon Switch (Possible Wii U Update)
  • Mario Kart Switch (Possible MK8 Update)
  • Just Dance 2017
  • Holiday 2017 Sonic Game
  • Dragon Quest X
  • Dragon Quest XI
  • Steamworld Heist

I'm only interested in both DQX and DQXI in that list, but I'll be getting the latter on the PS4 anyways. So one game is not enough for me to want to buy the console. Plus, there's no official Nintendo distributor here and the warranty's only covered by the retailer you buy from which is only 1 to 3 months.

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@WanderingBullet: The only games for sure that are coming to the Switch are

Zelda — Which was confirmed by Nintendo
DQ X — Which was confirmed by Square
A Mario Platformer — Which again was confirmed by Nintendo

The other games shown where just to show the system I guess. Bethesda said that Skyrim has not been confirmed and the reason the image was shown was because Bethesda let Nintendo use it for the presentation hoping that it will build a good relation between Bethesda and Nintendo and nothing more.

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johncalmc

This might seem like a ridiculous nitpick but I was just looking at my TV last night and I had a thought; can the Switch be laid down or does it have to stand vertically? Because I honestly don't even think it would fit into my entertainment centre. The shelves aren't tall enough. It must be able to lay down, right?

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@johncalmc: Presumably you'd be able to lay it down, it would just be that little bit more awkward to slot the Switch into the dock. I don't see why it would necessarily have to be stood upright.

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BAMozzy

@johncalmc: I don't think so - the power and TV link slots are in the back, meaning the only conceivable way to lay it down would be in its front. However that would leave the cables sticking up out of the now top. You couldn't lay it down on its back because of the cables and sides wouldn't work or offer any benenfit so the only possible way would be face down and it really doesn't look designed to be used that way.

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@johncalmc: They confirmed no backwards compatibility. Wii U BC is kinda impossible due to the different architecture and lack of disc drive. 3DS doesn't really work because of the different format and the different size of game cards. There's a good indication that you can lay it down, there's a groove in the back that seems to be where the cables go if you lay it down. Knowing Nintendo, they'll find a way to make that happen, all of their latest consoles were able to do that.

@BAMozzy: To be fair, the GameCube controller also had the same asymmetrical design. I definitely prefer that lay-out over the Wii U's lay-out though. The right stick being placed all the way up there never felt really comfortable. You're mostly pressing buttons with your right hand.

@Utena-mobile: Although it's technically not confirmed, we have gotten reliable rumours/leaks that said there's no region lock.

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BAMozzy

@Octane: Laying it down does bring additional problems - like putting stress on the port between the screen and base unit. In the shown vertical arrangement, you have gravity working straight through the screen into the dock where as if it was horizontal, gravity would be working perpendicular - like a lever. Of course this can be minimised but the way its designed, vertical seems the primary way.

I said the asymmetrical design of the controller more tongue in cheek as I know many here complain that the layout is uncomfortable for them - personally I prefer it myself as it fits my hand better - my left thumb always sits more naturally on the thumbstick and rarely needs to move to the D-Pad. My right thumb may sit more naturally on the buttons but as you are often switching back and forth between stick and buttons, I don't find my hand cramps up so much as my left hand does when playing on a symmetrical style layout. The DS4 has made this far less common than on the DS3.

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Octane

@BAMozzy: Depends on how sturdy the dock is then. I agree that the vertical position would be the optimal position, but I don't want to rule out a horizontal position. In this image, you can see the part that's missing. From what was visible in the trailer, it looked like the cables were coming out from the right side. Imagine a cross-section at the indentation looking like the image below. In a vertical position, the cables would bend towards the back, and in a horizontal position, they would follow the indentation and come out of the side. Maybe I'm overthinking this, and my drawing doesn't look like the most well thought out design.

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I'm more interested in what's in the dock though, and if it can unlock a higher clock speed.

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