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JohnnyShoulder

@Rudy_Manchego Yeah I agree the Switch Not is not for me either. And the battery only lasts 30 mins longer, the way some people were going on about I was thinking it would be a more substantial gain in that respect.

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Rudy_Manchego

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah at the end of the day it is a smaller screen and slightly larger battery but not much else. As I said, it isn't for me and I think it is a great idea.

I was thinking about it last night though and I do hope that if the Lite is a big success saleswise, devs don't stop focusing on providing a good experience docked as well as handheld and just aim for good performance handheld. I know it is not the same but a bit like devs soon dropped the 3D element from the 3DS as soon as the 2DS came along since it saved dev time.

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Ralizah

@Rudy_Manchego I mean, if it works well in handheld mode, then it'll work well docked. It's the reverse (focusing on docked specs first) that causes issues.

With that said, unlike stereoscopic 3D, the 'home console' functionality of the Switch Phat is pretty popular (when Nintendo released its stats on how people were using it, they found MOST people were using it 50/50 as handheld and home console; although way more people were using it purely as a handheld than purely as a home console, which might have been the inspiration for this revision), so I think what we'll see is less of a focus on gimmicks aimed at TV mode users, like Super Mario Odyssey's stupid motion gestures. I also don't think it'll do any favors for those people hoping Nintendo does more with HD rumble. Also worth mentioning that, while I loved stereoscopic 3D, it was also an incredibly resource-intensive feature for the system, which is why dropping it entirely helped some devs program games with better physics or have the games run at a higher framerate in 2D.

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Tasuki

@Rudy_Manchego The funny thing is Nintendo is claiming that the Switch Lite isn't a replacement for the 3DS (I know Nintendo makes alot of claims that end up the opposite later on such as there won't be a Switch Lite), however I can't see them occupying the same space. The Switch Lite is a more powerful handheld system then the 3DS so naturally devs and publishers are going to gravitate towards that. Which would slowly phase out the 3DS. Nintendo already in the past did try to have to handhelds on the market with the Gameboy line and the DS and well, we saw how that turned out.

In all I can see the appeal of a Switch Lite, for those who want an handheld console. Perhaps they travel alot, or just prefer handhelds I don't know. It's not the first time a company has made a handheld system that could play the same games as a home console, Sega Nomad anyone? I am sure Nintendo did there marketing as to what percentage of people play the Switch docked and not docked before even considering a Switch Lite. For me however I prefer docked mode so I will be passing on the Switch Lite.

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Ralizah

Switch Lite is obviously a 3DS replacement. 3DS is dead at this point, and Nintendo wanted a cheaper piece of hardware to fill that 'budget handheld' void left by it.

Pretty crazy that this is launching for the same price as their last-gen 240p handheld.

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Rudy_Manchego

@Ralizah Well I guess in theory no but my guess would also be that QA may be different in terms of focusing on different player experiences be it docked and handheld and, as you say, motion controls, multiplayer controls, gyro controls and haptics will just not be incorporated in games. It also sits at odds with Labo as well since no joycons. I know that they are saying that you can use Joycons with it but added cost and a with no dock or stand, there isn't much point.

@Tasuki I think they still have a large inventory of DS systems and games to sell and if they are selling, they probably won't formally kill it off. There are no physical games coming to the system any time soon (or at all - can't remember).

The price point of this is designed for handheld users or families to get an affordable Switch or multiple consoles. To be honest, for me, the handheld element of the Switch is the gimmick. I prefer the games docked with the pro controller but I find it handy that I can take it with me, especially with larger games.

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Ralizah

@Rudy_Manchego Switch Lite has gyro.

Anyway, keep in mind that, by the time Switch Lite comes out, the Phat will already have sold 35+ million consoles. And that's not going to stop selling, even if the Lite cannibalizes a lot of sales. So, for the foreseeable future, Phat owners will still comprise the majority of the market, which gives developers plenty of incentive to still include Phat-exclusive features. But now they have the extra incentive to not build games around docked specs, which hopefully means no more Xenoblade 2 situations where the game looks terrible when it's not played on a TV.

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Rudy_Manchego

@Ralizah Ah my mistake.

Overall though, I hope the LIte sells well. The more units sold, the more games we'll get and the more chance I have of getting my Metroid Prime Trilogy HD remaster.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Rudy_Manchego Yes please on the prime Trilogy! I've not played any of them so would most likely buy that day 1.

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Tasuki

@Rudy_Manchego Right I can see people getting a Switch Lite for online gaming in the same room like Warframe for example or Smite or even Fortnite. One kid plays on the tv the other one plays on the Switch Lite.

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Rudy_Manchego

@JohnnyShoulder I have it’ll the originals and a digital copy on Wii U but a Wind Walker style remaster would be awesome!

@Absolutely right, especially Fortnite as the kids can sit on the couch while parents watch tv. Also, Nintendo do quite simple parental controls and so on.

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Ryall

My main worry is that the Lite will make motion control games like skyward sword is less likely in the future.

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Knuckles-Fajita

I think we need to look at what Nintendo means by "Support the 3DS".

They don't mean make new software or continued future investment.

They mean keep producing it because it's cheap and highly profitable until demand dries up, and keep making the game cards because those will be a thing people will buy for a few more years.

That counts as support. To an investor, not supporting it means not producing anymore game cards or hardware, effectively killing the revenue stream dead.

Also long as one production line for more copies of a game exists...it's support.

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KratosMD

I just preordered Fire Emblem: Three Houses for roughly €50 after receiving a €10 voucher code from an online retailer. Since Fire Emblem games, or Nintendo games in general, rarely go down in price I thought this was a really good deal and the game is very long as well so I'll be getting a lot of bang for my buck.

With that aside, this game is honestly one of my most hyped games of 2019, along with Trails of Cold Steel III. I've played through two FE games before (Shadows of Valentia on 3DS and Fire Emblem on GBA) and I really love the gameplay and the plethora of different characters. Now to have the series be expanded upon with a 3D overworld and social simulation elements á la Persona has made me really excited. I've read a couple of previews from the other day of the game and it really seems like it will become one of the best games on the Switch along with Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2. It looks so good and I'm super stoked to be playing this game in just a couple of weeks!

Is anyone else going to pick up Three Houses at launch?

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kyleforrester87

I tried a Fire Emblem game on 3DS.. not for me!!

I am looking forward to Astral Chain though. That looks good.

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Knuckles-Fajita

The original Switch is discontinued!

Crab Rave

It's being replaced by the original Switch!

It makes sense in context. It's just the original Switch with the newer more energy efficient parts from the Lite instead of the original. No specifications buff in terms of rendering or anything, just less power draw.

And that means up to 9 hours of battery life now. Wow.

Again, no changes to how games will run. It's still a Tegra X1, just smaller and less power hungry. Also more energy efficient LPDDR4 RAM. Same size battery too.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Knuckles-Fajita Crab Rave?! 😂

To me this makes the Switch Me Not even more pointless, one of the advantages was the longer battery life, which it no longer has.

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Ralizah

@JohnnyShoulder Smaller. Cheaper. It comes with a D-Pad (you can get a Hori joycon that only works in handheld mode and gives you a D-Pad, but it's oddly shaped and doesn't fit in cases). Switch Lite's appeal was never going to be the half hour more of a juice you got from the batteries.

Ralizah

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JohnnyShoulder

@Ralizah Oh yeah I'm sure it will still have it's fans, but for me it is just another tick in the 'NO` column. And there weren't many in the 'YES' column to begin with!

You seen the Pokeman edition of the Lite? What do you think of it and will you be getting one?

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Ralizah

@JohnnyShoulder I'd like to get one, although I don't harbor any illusions that this will be happening, considering Nintendo usually releases special editions in very limited supplies, and scalpers jump on them ASAP. My plan is to get a Lite, though: I really like the form factor, and every game will look slightly better in handheld mode due to the moderately smaller screen. Also, it's just super cute!

It's worth mentioning that I'm a launch-day Switch owner, though, so it's not like I won't have access to docked play. I'm not sure if I'd go with a Switch Lite as my sole version of the hardware, as some games only play well on the TV.

I wouldn't bother if I mostly played on the dock, but probably 80% or more of my playtime on the system is undocked. This hardware will also be brilliant for games like Blazing Chrome, the Castlevania Anniversary Collection, etc.

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