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KratosMD

@kyleforrester87 I don't think so. The only reason why Nintendo remade Wind Waker (and Twilight Princess) on Wii U was because they wanted to give Wii U owners some Zelda games to play while we waited for Breath of the Wild to come out. But now that it's out, there's not much of an incentive for Nintendo to re-release those games again on the Switch, since the system already has 'the best' Zelda game.

And while Nintendo seem to be in a good mood to port over a lot of their Wii U games to the Switch, I just can't see them porting over remakes/remasters, especially when BOTW is on the system. I also believe that Nintendo is preparing to release Virtual Console for GameCube games on the Switch so they might just offer the original GameCube version there instead if that ever happens.

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kyleforrester87

@KratosMD Hmm maybe. I dunno, if it's made and ready to go (and they perhaps didn't sell many copies on Wii U) would it be tough for them to bring it over to Switch, even if it's download only?

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KratosMD

@kyleforrester87 Yes I believe so because that version had Wii U specific features (touch screen of the gamepad which would be used simultaneously while you play on the TV, Miiverse etc) heavily integrated into its gameplay so I'd reckon they would cause some issues while porting over the game to the Switch.

Not that I really know if that's hard or not. Maybe it's really easy to remove those features.

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KratosMD

@kyleforrester87 Although now that I think about it, they did add Wii U Pro controller support for the game post launch which means that you had to be able to use the feature of the touch screen on the TV, so maybe they could use that control setup for the Switch. But they would have to still fix the Miiverse integration and give Tingle another purpose in the game, as well as rearrange the interface of the item menu that was on the touch screen to make it more streamlined.

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Octane

@kyleforrester87 Wind Waker HD was a quick project. I think it took them only 6 months to make. And let's be honest, all the game needed was an increase in resolution. The addition of bloom and gradient shadow is another thing, but I don't think it made the game look better. The million+ sales on the Wii U was essentially free money. No porting required either, since the Wii U runs GameCube games natively.

The best case solution is that they make their old games available on the eShop at some point. Up to N64 can be emulated. Not sure about GameCube and Wii games though, they may need to be ported, which requires a lot more resources...

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Tasuki

Still plugging away at Mighty Gunvolt Burst, So far I got all the hidden items in 4 stages and working on a few challenges (basically this games versions of trophies). Still can't believe how much content this game has for the price. Definitely a must have for Switch owners.

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Kidfried

I put quite some hours into Zelda this weekend and... man, is it disappointing.

I wasn't really convinced of the game's greatness at first. And, having enough games to play on my PlayStation I put it aside for a while. Then among all GOTY discussions I just heard so many praise for the game. As well on this site. I couldn't ignore it any longer and tried it again over the weekend.

It combines every bad aspect of every open world game for me:

  • The game world is bigger than it needs to be. There is so many repetition and places where there just isn't that much going on.
  • To enjoy this game you must love watching your stamina and health meter a lot.
  • Clearing outposts is not rewarding. Enemies respawn and the loot is hardly ever special at all.
  • Tied into the above point... loot just feels like you're grinding. Why am I going into this dungeon? To make the number of orbs go up, that makes my stamina/hearts go up. Why am I fighting the ancient monsters? To make the number of ancient tech I have go up, that makes my attack/defense number go up. Why am I... to have things go up.
  • Every time I see a place that I think must be really cool, I just find... amber or some resource.
  • All dungeons look the same.
  • The world is overwhelming.
  • The world design and your introduction to it is bad as well. Just go play The Witcher 3. You enter this place and immediately get confronted with a living world full of politics, struggles, side quests, etc. This game just doesn't suck you in at all.
  • Ubisoft towers.
  • Weird controls.

Sorry for the rant. I know many people here love this game, and I'll enjoy watching your defenses of it. I'm just (for the second time) really disappointed with this game. It just... doesn't click with me. I miss those imaginative dungeons and acquiring cool items like the Pegasus boots.

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kyleforrester87

@Kidfried Fair enough, it's a bit of a marmite game for sure. I just let it suck me in and explore without worrying about silly concepts such as "making progress"

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Kidfried

@kyleforrester87 Well, if the game presents me an outposts, I'll make an effort to kill the enemies. So one time, I'm stealthily shooting them with arrows (7 in total). Then finding a treasure chests. I WONDER WHAT'S IN IT, THIS IS SO EXCITING! It's five arrows of some kind. It's a mood killer.

But I get what you mean. The reward is the adventure you had, not the chest at the end. I just find it hard to have that kind of fun, when I'm constantly worried about the condition of my equipment and such.

Maybe I just worry too much. I've become quite old and grumpy these last few years!

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Kidfried

kyleforrester87

@Kidfried yeah that's pretty much it really. I think it helps if you can set aside some of your hang ups from past experiences playing other games, in particular how you quantify progress and reward for your effort. But still I can see why not everyone is going to love it. In that case you just kind of need to say as great as it may be, it ain't for me!

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Ralizah

@Octane Wind Waker HD made a number of useful improvements to the base game, though.

The swift sail, item management on the GamePad screen, and changes to the triforce shard quest near the end make it a vastly more enjoyable experience, in particular.

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Tasuki

@Kidfried I felt the same way with Breath of the Wild. As a Zelda fan I really wanted to enjoy this but for the reasons you pointed out I just didn't. I have been playing Assassin's Creed Origins the past few days and it makes me think if only they did Breath of the Wild like this it would be so much better.

While it's not a bad game it just feels incomplete.

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Fight_Teza_Fight

@Tasuki @Kidfried Feel the same way about BOTW.
Last thing I remember I left Link on top of a mountain picking up lightning arrows...that was 6 weeks ago.

I love the attention to detail, but I just find the game boring.
I'm still going to finish it one day, but it's fallen WAY down the pecking order.

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johncalmc

I can see why some people might not like Breath of the Wild. A lot of people have been throwing around the word "revolutionary" and other such superlatives, and it really isn't. It's revolutionary if you've only played Nintendo games for the last ten years but practically everything in it has been done elsewhere. In many ways it's just another open world game. But I think it does a lot of the stuff so much better than other games. The combat is a bit button mashy and I've already talked about why I hate the weapon degradation, but otherwise I think it nails it. Once I started it I couldn't put it down.

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themcnoisy

@Kidfried Im gutted you have just posted this. We have similar tastes in games and Im about to buy BOTW

Ive said it before but ARMS is the only switch exclusive game which has retained my interest. Im hoping botw gels with me as at this point I cant envisage buying any more games as the reviews so far dont match my experience of any of the games. I think as a game fan and avid reader of gaming websites, the fact Yakuza zero, HZD and statik were overlooked last year in favour of Mario Odyssey and Rabbids kingdom battle is actually ridiculous. If botw is similarly wet then Im just sticking with PS purchases and listening to the pushsquare team for advice as I cant trust the overblown scoring on the switch exclusives from multiplat sites.

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Octane

@themcnoisy It's overrated, and not a good Zelda game IMO. But plenty of people will tell you otherwise. It's best to try yourself I think.

Octane

themcnoisy

@Octane Thanks bro. I will do just that!

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Kidfried

@themcnoisy It's not a bad game by any stretch. Don't worry about that. There is actually a lot of good in there, some great details and it does feel like a fresh game (and not just another Zelda). But with all the praise it's getting I expected it to be a modern classic, a revolution for the open world genre. For me, this game didn't feel like that at all. It's an 8/10 game.

I certainly have more fun with it than I had with Skyward Sword, which I could never push myself to complete. And I would have probably been more forgiven if this was a different series. However, this is the Zelda series. The Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time are games I've played and finished countless times. The Wind Waker is probably my favorite game world of all time. And when I'm playing Breath of the Wild I just constantly catch myself longing to replay those games instead.

So perhaps what @kyleforrester87 is right on the money, about having a better time if you don't compare it to those previous games.

Kidfried

kyleforrester87

@themcnoisy Knowing you I'd probably bet against you really enjoying BOTW, but you never know. A game so highly acclaimed should be given a chance by any dedicated gamer in my opinion, even if you know you're taking a risk.

It's like Mario Oddysey and Fez, there is a lot of fun to be had exploring the environments without much direction just to see what is there. You might not get a conventional "reward", you might not tick some boxes on a quest list, you might end up worse off in terms of equipment but occasionally you'll stumble across something great, like a guy waiting for his true love next to a pond shaped like a broken love heart. Then a bit later you might find the unbroken love heart pond that he clearly should have been at instead. And you just sort of go "Naww." And thats it lol.

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themcnoisy

@kyleforrester87 Im taking that bet. It cant be any worse than my experience with mass effect andromeda or everybodys golf so heres hoping!

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