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RogerRoger

Wow, I didn't expect so many people to have opinions on Sonic! On an average day, he barely gets a look-in around here. You've all restored my faith in humanity (or destroyed it, depending on your perspective)!

@themcnoisy I actually agree with you. Sonic has a historic reputation of being a skill-based speed-runner's kinda game, but it's one he could easily shake off now that we've all moved on and it isn't just SEGA vs. Nintendo any longer. I wouldn't mind his games coming with a "classic" mode (with lives, time limits and whatnot) and a "casual" mode like the one you describe. Kinda like how the GoldenEye 007 remake let you pick between regenerating health and collecting body armour; it recognised that a lot of folk had moved on and gave them the choice.

@KALofKRYPTON Hey, I thought Sonic Mania was really awesome... for a fan service cash-grabbing backwards step, at any rate. Could've been way, way lazier and still gotten away with it.

@DerMeister Just gotta tag you for mentioning Sonic Advance 2. Such a great game!

@Gremio108 That's a pretty decent time! I never actually timed myself playing any game, let alone a Sonic one, but I'd imagine I'm probably around the same kinda mark; there was a brief period where the classic 2D games were re-released on everything and I played nearly all of them, and so would block out an hour to do a run on each. I'd give you the edge since you mentioned split-screen Mystic Cave, though... truly the stuff of nightmares!

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Thrillho

Sonic 3 and Knuckles EVERY time for me.

I was obsessed with Sonic back in the day though; I used to get Sonic the Comic every week (after swimming lessons), had videos of the Sonic cartoon, and had a soft toy Tails too.

Thrillho

themcnoisy

@FullbringIchigo agreed. The time limits are stupid.

@Kyroki noooooo Sonic Adventure. Lol. I didn't enjoy it as much as the 2d Sonics back then. But strangely I still have good memories of it. You fancy a game of RL tonight mate?

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger I am satisfied with your response!

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FullbringIchigo

@Thrillho i used to get that comic too unfortunately because i was young and dumb i never took great care of them

they had some amazing artwork though especially from artists like Richard Elson
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I guess i must have done something wrong because no one is talking to me anymore

....Whatever it's not like i haven't spent most of my life alone anyway

themcnoisy

Just picked up Team Sonic Racing. Anybody grabbing that one?

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FullbringIchigo

@themcnoisy yeah but not until i get paid so next week sometime

I guess i must have done something wrong because no one is talking to me anymore

....Whatever it's not like i haven't spent most of my life alone anyway

themcnoisy

@FullbringIchigo sweet. I just got loads for BOTW as trade in. It was basically a straight swap - so if you have that knocking around it's worth trading in.

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FullbringIchigo

@themcnoisy i don't actually, i love the Zelda series but i don't have a Switch yet and the WiiU version is damn expensive

I guess i must have done something wrong because no one is talking to me anymore

....Whatever it's not like i haven't spent most of my life alone anyway

RogerRoger

@themcnoisy Got it, played a couple races, got distracted by the postman.

Also replied to your post on the PS4 Community!

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themcnoisy

@RogerRoger Cheers mate, I am pretty happy so far. No idea how to do the coin challenges - a tad stingy with the time allocation imo. Pretty hardcore mode for a Kart Racer.

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RogerRoger

@themcnoisy It was the Daredevil race that gave me real trouble (the one where you have to drift past starposts on a specific side). Only managed to scrape a silver medal on my second attempt. And I'm only playing on Normal; what's it gonna be like on Hard... and then Expert...?!

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger Is it as infuriating as the later hard Transformed dodge events?

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RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON I can see the potential for it to be, yeah. Admittedly I switched to Knuckles for it, just to give him a try (I main Tails, and had given Sonic a spin in my second race) and his handling is quite different, so I reckon I'll go back with good ol' Miles Prower and try again.

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Gremio108

@RogerRoger The iphone version of Sonic 2 with Hidden Palace at the bottom of the pit of doom in Mystic Cave. That blew my mind a little bit.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

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RogerRoger

@Gremio108 Heck yes. That was a neat little find.

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RogerRoger

So I've cleared the story of Team Sonic Racing and thought I'd offer up some expanded thoughts. Wouldn't say that I've completed the game, by any means, but I'm pretty confident that I've seen almost all of what it has to offer (in one shape or another).

The story itself turned out to be pretty disposable, but it's a fan-pleasing collection of well-acted, mildly-amusing lines if you're in the mood for that kind of thing. It's a shame the game didn't have a bigger budget because if applied to fully-animated sequences, the script could've really been something. It's clear that they expect people to show up for the racing first and foremost, however, as a couple times I caught myself having to quit out and restart races because I'd forgotten to push square instead of X and had therefore inadvertently skipped the cutscenes. But there were a couple moments I found chuckle-worthy at the very least, with the characters more in-keeping with their Sonic Boom counterparts (Tails and Amy being snarky, Knuckles being dumb in a loveable way, Eggman bantering with Orbot and Cubot, etc.) and not a bad voice actor to be found.

I played the whole thing on Normal. None of the Team Races gave me any trouble until the last two chapters, six and seven, where I'd have to replay every other one because I'd lost to the primary antagonist (usually Zavokā€¦ boy, can he really move). The uptick in difficulty was to be expected, and didn't feel too sudden, so I was okay with it. As soon as I'd finished the final race, however, I went back to the first chapter and tried the first race on Hard. Four attempts later, on the edge of my seat, I won by half a second. When the results screen congratulated me by saying "You've unlocked Expert Mode!" I could feel a small part of my self-confidence turn brown and wither away. Bottom line? Don't get lulled into a false sense of security. There's a pretty serious, pretty laser-focused racing game at the core of all this brightly-coloured, childish nonsense.

Thankfully, there are no trophies (that I'm aware of) tied to completing everything on Expert, just Hard, and they at least seem achievable with a little bit of practice and determination. Especially when you consider that the side events don't have a selectable difficulty level; I'd been dreading some of them on Expert but praise be, there are no nasty surprises when returning to them.

Well, beyond the nasty surprise of trying some of them for the first time. They come in several distinct flavours, which I'll outline for the curious below.

  • Daredevil: a plague upon the house of whoever designed these; drift as close as you can to starposts, either on an "easy" side for more points or a "difficult" side to add a score multiplier, before the time runs out. Wicked, wicked challenges. Expect many restarts!
  • Eggpawn Assault: destroy as many Eggpawn racers as possible, with various types offering different score bonuses, time boosts or hazard levels. Mildly frustrating depending on how badly the Eggpawn A.I. chose to drive on any given race. Felt extremely luck-based.
  • Ring Gatherer: gather as many rings as you can before the time runs out; drifting through rings adds time to the clock. As long as you select a racer you're comfortable drifting with, these are fun!
  • Survival: standard elimination races, usually found at the end of a chapter as a kinda boss fight and often the first time you'll encounter a villain like Metal Sonic or Zavok.
  • Target Challenge: drift through, or shoot with Rocket Wisps, as many large targets as possible; some add time to the clock, others increase a score multiplier. These were okay, kinda forgettable if I'm honest, and no real challenge until the later chapters.
  • Traffic Attack: yep, they're back! Dodge traffic warden robots and pass through checkpoints to increase your available time and score. Nowhere near as difficult as those still haunting the nightmares of any seasoned All-Stars Racing Transformed veteran, but still a challenge.

Unfortunately, the variety of events leads to a lot of repeated tracks throughout Adventure Mode, especially since some locations are held back until later chapters; expect to see a lot of Planet Wisp and Casino Park before you start getting familiar with Rooftop Run and Final Fortress... and yes, again unfortunately, those who've played the previous Sonic kart racers will find some of the scenery familiar. Eight of the game's twenty-one racecourses are from the first Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing, whilst one returns from All-Stars Racing Transformed. It's not a deal-breaker, and some have been given extra graphical flourishes (Casino Park in particular looks stunning) but it does take the edge off your excitement when you unlock a new world, only to discover very few surprises await.

What impressed me most is that the three different types of racers (Speed, Technical and Power) on each team felt distinctly different to drive. Each get unique powers, too, which come in very handy depending on the type of challenge you face. I found myself most comfortable with Technical characters, like Tails and Silver, because they don't slow down over rough terrain and can therefore cut corners rather beautifully. Power characters (Knuckles, E-123 Omega and the like) can smash through obstacles and obstructive weapons, whilst Speed characters (Sonic, Blaze, Shadow, etc.) repulse hazards whenever they boost or land tricks. When I was getting nowhere on a specific event, I'd switch to a different type of racer and have a much easier time.

Perhaps the only occasion where your choice matters less, beyond your own preferred driving style, is in a Team Race. This is because the team mechanic works so, so well. Any and all fears about co-operative driving were completely unfounded; my A.I. comrades never once let me down, and frequently got me out of some really tight jams, either by offering me the right Wisp at the right time or by boosting me after I'd spun out. Conversely, whenever I'd offer them an item I thought they could use, they used it and did so effectively. Never once did anybody I tried to help stay in the same position. If there's one thing that's really, genuinely impressed and surprised me about Team Sonic Racing, it's this. I doubt I'll ever play a kart racer the same way again; no more wasting unwanted weapons when you're out in front, and no more restarting when you're in 12th at the start of the final lap, thinking there's no hope.

It also helps that, for all the critical grumbles against the in-race character dialogue, it's actually really well-implemented. Each type of line has three or four variations, and in a single event you'll never trigger enough to get an annoying amount of repetitions. If you're like me, mixing your preferred team up between events also helps, meaning there'll be plenty of gameplay before you're in danger of hearing Knuckles asking Sonic to hold steady as he tries to skimboost.

And that almost brings me full-circle to where I started these musings; the whole game feels authentically Sonic, which is brilliant for fanboys, fangirls and fan-undecideds and charming to those who like a little character and personality added to their races. As much as I'd have loved full cutscenes, what we got not only does the job, but shows that they squeezed every penny from their available budget; if the voice actors were coming in to record, why not get them to record as much as possible, and use it all? Sumo Digital are obviously Sonic fans themselves, that much is clear, and it's made playing through each race and event (even the frustrating ones) a fraction more fun than it probably should be.

It's what I'd call a very solid effort indeed. Whilst I can understand and agree with a lot of the sevens I've seen in reviews, I'd personally push for an eight.

Nicely done, Sonic!

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger Sweet write up.

I may bite over the weekend - that's possibly dependent on how much of good mood Rocketman puts me in tomorrow morning though!

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DerMeister

That missile image is probably the most accurate summation of this movie's reception.

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