Topic: Both sides of story regarding the state of the Vita. (Not only ONE)

Creating a PS4-Vita Bundle, unless extremely disscounted, would not work its just too late IMO, the Vita (sadly) has a bad reputation that would make people only go and buy a PS4...

This should have been done ON PS4 RELEASE as a seconed package

That's why I put it at $500 for the two systems and three games, one of which is the biggest game on the market. It's an insane enough deal to work.

Unless the Vita becomes home to the next Pokémon like craze (circa 1998), no bundle in the world is going to significantly boost sales.

Its a great deal, but im not sure Sony wants to keep losing much more money with the Vita to be fair, like i said, its not just the Vita, they have been bleeding money for some time because of other parts, the sell of the HQ and Vaio are just patchs that will work for sometime only)

They could probably put the pre-orders for them up at it's announcement to gauge interest. Numbers blowing up? Manufacture dat! No bites? Manufacture less of them.

Unless we are talking about a school playground (where this kind of conversation happens from time to time) most people have no idea what the Vita even is so I doubt people are being harassed in public (I've never been, on the countless times I've played my Vita on public transport). I feel your are acting overdramatic about the whole situation as if it is an issue when it really isn't just ignore the online people if what they say bothers you so much.

I've had run ins with Inahime in the past where, most likely through language barrier and how I write as I talk, she has thought I myself have had a go at her and Vita owners for saying pretty much what you just have. That's despite no-one loving their Vita more than I. I'm so vocal on it because I love it so much, I just have accepted what is happening with the console rather than routinely hoping it will change when nothing - not even Minecraft - has worked.

The whole issue of 'The TRUTH about Vita' is beyond boring now and is just overly dramatic (the bold part in Jazzer94s comment especially). It's a failed machine that has a small but incredibly loyal fanbase. There's nothing wrong with that. Ask anybody about the Dreamcast and they'll get misty-eyed and say how wonderful it was - despite 90% of those people never owning it. Video game history looks back very fondly on machines like Vita and will be thought of as being a great device in ten years that was ahead of it's time. Present day it's on life support but who cares? Just enjoy the games you have for it, the ones you don't already and the few we're getting soon. Who cares if one person owns it or a hundred million? As long as you're happy with it that's all that matters.

All this time spent moaning about how everyone is against Vita or whatever is time we could all be spent playing Persona.

I have never seen anyone being harassed about owning a Vita, and I agree with @Jazzer94 and it's Vita owners being over dramatic or something. I will say that when a Vita article pops up and people speak the truth of the Vita my inbox gets flooded with people reporting people's comments and it's not even something that goes against the rules here. I have gotten reports when someone will say something like "Sony needs to stop production on the Vita and concentrate on the PS4" or something similar to that. Honestly I am at the point now when a Vita article pops up talking about something like a game not coming to the Vita or sales are low I cringe cause I know my inbox will be going crazy.

I honestly don't know why Vita owners are so sensitive but it is what it is. I just don't get why they spend so much time arguing against the facts instead of just enjoying the system and games.

I dont get why anyone would be harrased by owning anything (except the Kyocera Echo, you deserved bully).

Unless you have stocks on X company i dont get why would you care if a system is or not a failure, especially since the games are still coming :/ you may be dissapointed with the support for the console, but its not like its release games are like a snail, sure its not the 3DS (or the WiiU vs Ps4/XB1) but i dont think ANYBODY buys all the games coming

Just have a good time

Man the Vita is a touchy subject, but honestly, it does get my blood rushing a little as well.

I often see others playing on their phones and tablets, and in a way i'm jealous because they get far more gaming enjoyment from those devices than I do.

I need buttons and I really appreciate the twin sticks of the Vita. That makes me defensive of the Vita because basically that's the only device that gives me the gameplay experience I need on the road, and the fact that it's a failure is a sad thing. Why? Because it means that the market for the Vita does not exist, so such a device that I and many others want can not be supported by the market. In my opinion that grants people the right to be a little emotional about the Vita's predicament.

If that's the case then is the Vita really the system for you? I mean no one can make you enjoy something the enjoyment is up to you. You get out what you put in enjoyment wise. As I said I enjoy the Virtual Boy to this day and that had far less support then the Vita. The Gamecube when compared to the PS2 and Xbox didn't have the titles like the others did yet I enjoyed it more. As I said if your looking at others enjoyment with phones, 3DS and are not enjoying the Vita, then maybe it's not for you and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah what I meant is that I could be playing on an iPad or iPhone, or 3ds for that matter, but I prefer the vita. I prefer the vita platform, but I realize I'm in the minority. It's easier for gamers who like touch control games...

If it was up to me, the Vita would be a runaway success and 3rd party publishes would be rushing to support it, but they're not. I enjoy my Vita just fine, but but I'd enjoy it more if it was better supported...

I too believe the Vita deserves props for sticking around for as long as it has. If it really was a true failure, it would have been axed by summer of 2013. I do think it needs at least one more good whack at the mainstream with it's range of popular indies and a Grand Theft Auto, trojan horsed into Western homes by way of that bundle from earlier.

The only time I have been bullied for owning a vita was last year. I was at the bar in costa Brava and the barman said, oh psp, I used to have psp. (in broken English) I said "no vita" he said "no senior psp, psp, I prefer Nintendo" obviously I was then "its the new psp" he said ""oh yeah psp" I was like "amigo no psp this vita" he was like "psp out of date now" at this point he had poured me as drink "its not a psp mate its a vita" he then said "psp not very good" I walked away.

When I was out today looking through pawn shops, in the one where I got my 3DS C-Pad pro, I found 4 traded in Vitas for $120, sitting in a square, unloved and in good condition.

Surely the truth is that the Vita is doing all right in its native Japan - selling a decent amount of consoles a week and getting many decent software releases. You can say that it is down on the PSP but then the entire industry is in the doldrums in Japan and this probably has to do with the long running economic problems in Japan as a whole. I would imagine that the global problems since 2008 has also not helped Japan either. You cannot just match previous consoles sales without looking at the wider economic picture both in Japan and the world as a whole. I do not know if someone on here lives in Japan who can comment better on the economic situation but it seems that none of the new consoles and software have been selling as well as the previous generation.

There are a lot of a good games for the Vita but maybe not quite the ones that suit the Western market as much as the Japanese one. I do think however some games like Toukiden and Gravity Rush 2 will be dual releases as it seems there is much bigger market for Vita releases in Japan and console releases in the West.

I have personally enjoyed my time on the Vita and think it has been a good console with lots of decent games. I also think that some Western developers have to look themselves in the mirror and seriously ask themselves have they done their best to support consoles such as the Vita or the Wii U. Too many studios these days are ruled by accountants rather than the creative people who make games for the love of the creating games - which is a big shame in my opinion.

Finally, I have always felt that the journalistic side of the industry - why has it become an industry rather than a fun hobby? - have seen the financial side of castigating consoles such as the Vita and there are others who like to criticize.

Lol! Too true. I've given up correcting people it's a vita. Sometimes I call it PSP as well to avoid confusion.

I'd get a 3ds but frankly there are very few games on it that I thoroughly enjoy. The vita has a ton of great gems, the problem is, with all the games you have to shift through to find them.

It isn't as hard as finding a good DL only game on 3DS. I swear, whenever a platform gets popular, the shovelware just piles in. The ones on Vita tend to be better, mostly because the indies Sony got for Vita actually care about the handheld.

Exactly. I bought a Wii U six months after launch. I think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. It brought me back into gaming after a two decade absence. I like using the gamepad for Netflix and surfing- but offline play is something that I think a lot of families could use. Anyway, I just bought a Vita and think it's a great little device. It doesn't win me over sentimentally like Nintendo does, but I am very happy with the purchase and will spend a lot of time on it. It's a shame that neither the Wii U or Vita caught on.