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Buizel

Ralizah wrote:

I didn't play Super Mario World until 2014 or so.

I'm curious as to how you found this experience? (Especially considering that, to this day, SMW is considered the pinacle of 2D Mario).

Personally, it remains my favourite 2D Mario. I didn't play it until 2003 or so (althought, despite it being over a decade old at the time it was still Mario's most modern 2D adventure). SMB3, although always considered a contender for best 2D Mario, never felt quite the same for me - it was just that little bit too archaic relative to SMW.

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themcnoisy

@Buizel I actually think every 2d Mario game is great, bar the one on the Game boy. When you see the stuff churned out on Mario maker you know the series has reached its climax with the community making the levels. It can't get any better its probably why they decided to finally make Mario maker in the first place.

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@Buizel

I don't like it. The relative lack of power-ups compared to SMB3 always bothered me. I found the dinky SNES music and sprites very weird. I don't like the feel of the platforming. The cape feels like a total downgrade from the Super Leaf. And it introduced Ghost Houses to the series, which are my least favorite set of levels in any Mario game.

My opinions on Mario games are kind of unusual, though. I found Mario 64 to be a thoroughly miserable experience for a variety of reasons. I actually really loved Sunshine and consider it to be the strongest of the more exploratory Mario games. And I consider NSMBU and NSMB2 to be the second and third best 2D platformers in the series after the classic SMB3.

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Tasuki

@Ralizah I always felt SMB3 was better then SMW. Yeah SMW looks prettier unless you compare it to the All-star version of SMB3 but SMB3 just played better. The variety of powerups not to mention the Airships made it feel special at the end of a world rather then always being a castle.

I use to get into arguments on the playground on which was better 3 or World lol.

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Ralizah

@Tasuki Yeah, SMB3 is a masterpiece. One of my favorite NES games (alongside the original Contra). Some people don't like the more controlled jumps, but the platforming and physics in this game always felt really good to me.

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FullbringIchigo

@Ralizah here is an unpopular Super Mario opinion for you, Super Mario Bros 2 is great and Super Mario 3D world is better than Super Mario 64

(fun fact did you know that originally Shigeru Miyamoto wanted to make the Japanese Mario 2 a game based around lifting and stacking objects, and scrolling the screen upward — a design too complex for the Famicom hardware and so it was postponed in favor of a quicker upgrade to the original Super Mario Bros they which was released as Super Mario Bros 2 in Japan (the Lost Levels over here) he then turned that concept into Doki Doki Panic which was then rebranded into Super Mario Bros 2 in the west, so the version of Super Mario Bros 2 we got is IN fact what they was originally going to do so you could say it IS the TRUE SMB2)

If i could live in any video game world it would be Gaia from FFIX, i love that world and characters

Buizel

@themcnoisy Which Gameboy game? What I really appreciate about Super Mario Land 1 and 2 is that they're very much unique - SML with it's culturally-inspired setting and SML2 with it's very unique zones. That said, SML in particular has aged very poorly.

@Ralizah That's interesting. One reason I prefer SMW is because of the power ups. I prefer a smaller number of more versatile / useful powerups to an expansive set myself (can't stand, for example, the frog suit). And the cape, despite being less intuitive, always felt more satisfying to use once I'd learnt it. I'm with you on the Ghost Houses though.

When did you first play SM64? I had fond memories of it as a kid, but I sometimes wish I never went back to play it as a teen/adult because I don't believe it to have aged well at all (and I agree that Sunshine is a far superior experience).

@FullbringIchigo I love Super Mario Bros 2.

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Ralizah

@FullbringIchigo Oh yeah, I absolutely enjoy both of those games more. SMB2 is... well, I'm not sure it scratches the Mario itch, but it's a neat platformer in its own right, and I always enjoyed the innovative system where each of the characters had their unique ability. And, of course, it's the first time that we get a playable Princess Peach, so surely it deserves credit for abandoning the reliance on victimizing her so early in the series!

Super Mario 3D World is a lot of fun. Lots of cool ideas, and I appreciate how they evolved the scope of 3D Land in such a way that it felt like a game that belonged on a home console. The game is just exploding with creativity.

3D Land is pretty great in its own right, too. The level design is more focused than 3D World, the way it utilized the system's stereoscopic 3D was great, and it's one of the few games I sat down and 100%ed, from beginning to end, without stopping. I actually think I prefer it to 3D World in many respects.

@Buizel Around the same time I played SMW. It was the period after the 3DS turned me into a Nintendo fan where I was actively seeking out their older games. So I don't get the benefit of nostalgia. And yes, the game has NOT aged well. The in-game camera is borderline schizophrenic, Mario's physics are weirdly slippery, the levels feel barren compared to every other 3D Mario, and, even for an N64 game, it's ugly as sin.

The N64 is my least favorite Nintendo console, and it has my least favorite set of Nintendo first-party titles (I actually really like Majora's Mask and Star Fox 64. but the 3DS remakes make the originals pointless to me, imo).

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FullbringIchigo

@Ralizah i also really like the 4 player co-op 3D World has, the whole family can get involved then and it's loads of fun

If i could live in any video game world it would be Gaia from FFIX, i love that world and characters

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