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Jaz007

@LuckyLand @KratosMD DMC3 fixes the story issues and Dante isn’t forgettable anymore. When we talk about Dante and our love for his silver locks, we mean DMC3 Dante really. It has a very well-told story as well. The opening of DMC3 is one of the most glorious things I’ve ever seen.

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KratosMD

@Jaz007 Ah that makes sense. Well I now have a reason to continue playing the games then. Hopefully DMC3 will be to my liking!

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Ralizah

@Th3solution
"Personally, I find Rocket League pretty boring and probably one of the most overrated games of all time"

Oho, I forgot this one. Yeah, I agree, I really didn't like this game. Played it when it first hit PS+ and... just didn't enjoy it. At all. It's worth mentioning that I'm not a huge fan of online multiplayer or sports, so this probably should have been expected.

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JohnnyShoulder

Yeah I never saw the appeal of Rocket League either.

Mind you usually I find that the more popular a game is the less inclined I am to to be interested in it, especially when it comes to online multiplayer stuff.

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AdamNovice

Hmm interesting topic.

1. Microsoft have not contributed anything meaningful or innovative to the industry.
Online? Sega were there first. Hands free motion controls? Again Sony and Sega were ahead of them.
Bringing online FPS games to consoles? That was Bungie before they bought them.

2. "60fps in a video game is objectively better" it's not, it's subjective.

3. PlayStation AllStars had more depth as a fighter then any of the Smash games.

4. Watch Dogs 1 was way better then Watch Dogs 2.

5. Pokemon as a gaming series ran out of ideas 20 years ago yet people lap it up.

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FullbringIchigo

@adf86 sega even did the whole game downloading and even a service like game pass way back on the Mega Drive, it was called the SEGA Channel i think

now that i think about SEGA did a lot of things first that are industry standards today, just a shame it never worked for them

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RogerRoger

@WanderingBullet You're right; it was actually during a discussion about Cyberpunk 2077's content that I was warned about The Witcher 3's violence, dark tones and language. I also agree with you about sexual content and nudity. Some of my favourite games contain all of the above, but they're either optional, presented in a tasteful way or smaller parts of a wider narrative. I won't go looking for them, and would be fine if they weren't present at all.

This may qualify as one of the most unpopular opinions of them all, but I firmly believe that regulation and classification for games isn't strong enough to justify how far some realistic-looking games take things. Parents need much, much greater education on what PEGI really means, and stores (both online and physical) need to take much more responsibility when they're making a sale. Because it is up to them; too many people still think of games as being a children's toy, and the current system is incredibly weak, for a seething mass of reasons... but the bottom line is, nobody should be offended if asked to provide I.D. whilst making a purchase.

Have your ultra-realistic, gore-filled, profanity-laced, semi-naked gameplay. Just make absolutely certain that it isn't being sold to kids, please.

@Ralizah The debate progressed whilst I was away yesterday, but just to briefly go back, you're right; Drake's Fortune had SIXAXIS controls for grenades, which I believe were optional (but it's been so long since I played it on PS3, so can't confirm). Your post triggered the memory of it being quite jarring, because it was totally new to me. Whenever I went to throw a grenade, it made me realise how low I naturally held my controller, because Nate would pitch forward and look at the ground between his feet.

@Fullbringlchigo I love Sonic Boom, and regret that all three of the Sonic Boom games are exclusive to consoles I don't own, because I'd have liked to have played them. I'd have loved to see Boom characters show up in Sonic Forces (as was the original plan) and wouldn't have an issue with a Boom game coming to PS4 in future, although I reckon that's a ridiculously long shot considering the history and the fact that the show might be cancelled.

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FullbringIchigo

RogerRoger wrote:

Have your ultra-realistic, gore-filled, profanity-laced, semi-naked gameplay. Just make absolutely certain that it isn't being sold to kids, please.

yeah but then they wont be able to sell Call of Duty to it's main demographic, the 12 year olds

(just kidding of course but yeah your right the whole system needs an overhaul)

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KirbyTheVampire

@RogerRoger I agree with that. Mature content is only really an issue if someone views it who isn't mature enough to understand what it is they're seeing and the fact that some things that happen in games should not happen among real people. Little kids should not be seeing things such as boobs or a ton of violence IMO. The ESRB ratings are there for a reason, and should be adhered to. (With exceptions. For example, I don't think you need to wait until you're 18 to play a game like Skyrim. Anyone 13+ should generally be okay with a game like that)

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Kidfried

@adf86 Agree on point 5. I'd even go as far to say this goes for most Nintendo devs. Just a few of them really make a difference, but most of what they do is utter forgetful.

More impopular opinions:

  • It doesn't matter who has the biggest surprises at E3, what matters is the quality of games.
  • New franchises are underrated.

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JohnnyShoulder

Not sure if the ratings system for games needs overhauling or anything as games with that kind of content are rated 18 anyhow? I don't remember seeing anything in a game and thinking that there was unsuitable content for the age rating. I agree parents need to take more responsibility and need to be made aware of how realistic games can be.

@RogerRoger I think you have may have been miss informed about The Witcher 3. Sure it has all of those things, but I didn't think it was absoulety full of it. And it certainly has it's fair share of lighter moments and quests, it is not all dark fantasy. And when those moments do happen they are handled in the utter most correct way, something that I feel some games can fudge up.

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BAMozzy

The ratings system is somewhat 'harsh' for gaming compared to movies for example. There is more nudity, sex etc in a 15 rated movie than there is in games that's rated 18 because of this - in fact nudity and Sex is virtually taboo in gaming but much more common in movies. To a degree, I can understand as gaming has objectified women and its not easy to do it without accusation. I have seen 15 rated horror movies with more gore than in 18 rated games. I have seen more violence, more graphic too in some 15 rated movies. More swearing/bad language too.

I have heard people justify the difference by saying that games are more immersive or that its 'you' performing the violence by shooting/killing NPC's but on the flip side, you don't get respawning in movies where death is permanent and the fact that people know its a 'game' where movies look more real, more like the news.

There have been 'war' films with much more blood, gore and 'emotional' impact that playing games like CoD or Battlefield - I think CoD is more likely to be 18 rated for its Zombies in recent years but a lot of the 18 rated games are no worse than most 15 rated movies. Its as if the gaming ratings are 30/40yrs behind where the movies are. you look at some of the 18 rated movies in the 80's and compare those to 15 rated movies today...

Being a parent AND a gamer does put me in a good position to know exactly what the content of games is and where my children are at too. I wouldn't let my son play games like Dead Space when they were 10 or 12 but I wouldn't stop him now he is nearly 17 and watches horror movies that are more horrifying and graphic - that are 15 rated but again that comes from knowing exactly what the game is, what my son watches and whether or not those have 'negative' impact.

I do think though that a lot of parents don't know their kids, not gamers themselves and pay no attention to age ratings. They are just 'games' in their mind...

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Jaz007

@RogerRoger Parents absolutely need to be more responsible. COD and GTA (Rockstar agrees that parents should be more responsible even) are great example of parents being dumb and irresponsible. My parents asked not only what the age rating was, but the descriptions were. I think more parents should do that for sure.
I do think the ESRB is good overall, Pegi seems more messed up. I do think more specifics could be nice the though in both. Exmaple: Strong language, okay this could mean it has the F word once or every other word, very unhelpful and uninformative.

@BAMozzy I agree that the pegi system seems weird. Star Wars Battlefront shouldn’t be 16, it’s the mildest FPS we’ve seen in a while

Another unpopular opinion: I think the industry has lost its balance in terms of content. The ratio of M rated game is a bit ridiculous. We don’t a mature take on everything. I also think more games should have content filters kind of like Treyarch’s COD games have and such. It’s a great option for players.

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BAMozzy

@Jaz007 Battlefront is a classic example of the difference between the ratings in Games and Movies. There is absolutely nothing in these that warrants that - at most they should be PG (or equivalent) - although being online could expose youngsters to foul and abusive language from other gamers but the game itself does not merit a 16 rating.

I don't necessarily agree that games should have 'content' filters for the benefit of 'younger' players. At the end of the day, these are for personal preference and not for kids. I guess if you are streaming or have kids watching you play, then there is a reason to have these filters but would you trust your kids not to turn these filters off - unless you plan to sit and watch them play. I used to watch my kids occasionally, keep them in earshot mostly but also happy to let them play on their own. I always arranged my games in 'age' order and my kids new which games they could play. I also wouldn't play the 'adult' games whilst they were around. I wouldn't have had an issue with playing Battlefront if they were 'old' enough to watch the films.

I do think though that the gaming and movie ratings should be very similar - especially so that parents etc can have a better understanding. Most people will have an idea of what a 15/18 film may contain. Even the trailers of films often can relate to the age rating but you see a lot of game trailers or snippets of game-play and you can't understand why the rating is so high. GTA's story trailer is no worse than some 12 rated movies and if you see a bit of game-play where they are just driving around, there is nothing that indicates it warrants an 18 rating. I think if they were treated like movies, rated like movies etc, then parents would have a better idea - even if they do bother to watch a trailer. Most of the mature games should be 12 or 15 max - if they were, then those that should be 18 probably won't be bought by parents because their Kid plays CoD or BF. If they think that these are 'typical' of 18 games then they will be less concerned by buying games that deserve to be 18 rated.

Anyway, my point is that there should be consistency between all media. That would make it clearer for all as to what to expect - inc Parents who buy games for minors. I do believe though that knowledge of your kids is more important. Everyone matures at different rates and someone who is 17yrs364days is no less mature than they are the next day - just legally old enough to purchase 18 rated content. There are 16yr olds that are more mature and can handle the content better than some 20yr olds though so the age rating is more of a guideline. Of course for shops, they don't know the person and their maturity so have to go on 'age' alone - which is where the Age rating is most important. They can't tell if that 17yr old is mature enough or that 19yr old is not so for shops its a 'legal' get out clause - they can't be accused of selling something to someone if they are old enough - even if they are not mature enough...

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Jaz007

@BAMozzy The content filters are for more than younger players, I’m an adult, but I still don’t plan on playing a game if it has excessive profanity or something like that. If you read why Gears of War has a filter for gore/swearing, it’s because he says he knows different players have different preferences/ lees on those those things and he has respect for those different players. It’s not just a think of the children thing. It’s just for different preferences. A lot of games have the option to turn blood on and off so it’s basically that expanded.
I don’t like answer “it’s just not meant for you” either, there plenty of games where everything but something like that is for me in the game.

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BAMozzy

@Jaz007 Its still for self censorship - whether you do it for streaming, for playing in front of kids or because you don't want to hear/see the swearing/blood gore - kind of like censoring a film for TV broadcasts - that's still very different from the rating of a game and affecting that. The point I was making was from the perspective of 'ratings', kids paying games that are rated above their age and being a parent. Its a separate issue if you, as an adult, want to PG a game for personal reasons for your own gaming. Its nothing new as some games offered the opportunity to turn blood green but that still shouldn't affect the rating or whether kids should be allowed to play these games underage.

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Rudy_Manchego

@BAMozzy I agree in consistency across all ratings for games.

I think ratings and so in games is a big deal and I feel for parents (like myself) who have to police this kind of thing. It really isn't the same as the early nineties hysteria - a bit of blood or gore or some adult scenes etc. in games. These, I think, can be done via ratings and logic/better education. It is more that technology is moving very quickly and I think it is a struggle to keep up. I bought my young daughter Sing Star Celebrations for her birthday recently (why on earth I did this, I have no freaking idea). As it is on the Playstation, I set it all up. As you go through the process, be default you are set up to share your videos and performances online, you have to opt out as opposed to in. You can opt in with one click of a button. You can also post online really easily and make in game purchases. Now, I'm obviously interested in this kind of thing so got the setup but you would be surprised how many parents probably wouldn't understand these things. So I think education and tools for parents to manage is a good thing.

I don't subscribe to the, parents should do better and it is their fault. That is like saying it is your fault if you get mugged because you have nice clothes. It's not your fault, it is the fault of the person that preys on you. I feel the same and I feel publishers and manufacturers, who profit from predatory behaviour, need to make things as transparent as possible.

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LieutenantFatman

@Welkin96
Yes, my wife was quite dissapointed with the end of Persona 5. Some small spoilers ahead. She was very much enjoying the story with me. All was a nice change with a personal story and bringing people to justice, helping people come to terms with their past, etc.

Then at the very last second it turned into a generic, 'Save the world,' job that went completely over the top. Saving the country from corruption was a fun overarching plot but when it was dropped near the end in favour of the usual overused save the universe silliness, it was a shame and seemed to be a wasted opportunity to us. I felt like it had some real potential to be one of the best game plots out there.

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Gremio108

This is a very dangerous thread! Most of mine have already been said. Enjoying the love for Sleeping Dogs.

I've never got on with 3D Mario. Granted the last one I played was Super Mario Galaxy, but I've just never enjoyed them. Given the popularity of 3D Mario games though, it seems like this is my problem rather than Mario's, so he can probably relax.

Also, I don't think Lara Croft did anything for female characters in games, and in fact held them back for many years. Only now with the likes of Aloy are we seeing female characters done right, in games that are considered AAA.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

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LuckyLand

I would like most of the games to stick to something like high-end Gamecube graphical standards.
Today there are huge amounts of games that falls into two distinct categories: indie games with ugly 8 bit graphics (I love pixel art but I don't accept anything less good than 16 bit quality) that can be great games but often are painful to look at, and games with graphics so detailed, polished and pushed to the limits that it is often not really sustainable by developers, so either they risk to go bankrupt if their game don't become the absolute best selling out there or they fill the game with loot boxes and other odious means to drain more money from players. Developing times also becomes too long and the quantity of games become smaller. There are not many good games that you can choose, there are only a few absolutely greatest games that either you like or you are screwed because you have no other choice.
I like good graphics but I really feel like pushing this thing so much is not good for the bigger picture. And on the other hand many indie and/or low budget games looks really too bad, so much bad that I can't enjoy them even if they are great in other ways. I really feel like developers, and the gaming world as a whole, has completely lost any healthy sense of proportion and I fear that things will get even worse.

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