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Th3solution

@Kidfried Thats a good point and I fully agree. I mean, who plays games to play as the same person you are in real life? Part of the experience is the fantasy of being this other character who does fantastic and unbelievable things you’d never be a able to do.
I do understand the limits to this, as you say, because at some point there may be a character profile so repugnant that you may never want to be in that person’s shoes, even if it is just fantasy. When given a choice in a game (like the paragon vs. renegade or the good karma vs. bad karma), I tend to make choices more aligned to what my personality would choose, but sometimes you just have to go off and be someone different. There is value in gaining a breadth of experience and I think that is a unique quality of video games. To see things from differing perspective than how we live our lives, maybe we learn something.
I too have not yet played the new GoW, but in playing the earlier games, Kratos is a great character, but my main impression of him was that he seemed to ... angry! I’m not an angry or vengeful person, in general. I tend to live by the forgive-and-forget, live-and-let-live philosophy of life. And actually while playing the GoW games, although fun to eviscerate demons and pull people’s heads off, it does reinforce my life philosophy because you just see how miserable a person he is. Now the new game is completely different I understand, but that’s just an example

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RenanKJ

Adding to the BC discussion, some have mentioned that but as a gamer it's never been this important to me as it is for the PS5. My entire library is digital this gen, I feel like I would lose it if they don't support BC in a similar way to Steam, for the simple reason that eventually they'd shutdown the servers (less likely to happen if you always have access to everything). And the most important reason is that there are so many awesome games this gen that I still want to play in the future (I don't wanna lose Crash and Kingdom Hearts for another decade).

Sony doesn't need to ensure older gen games work brilliantly on PS5. As generations pass older games will be harder to play, they can get too fast or use some deprecated tech, but leave that for the developers to fix. PS should be more like a PC, where you have different hardwares to pick from and the entire PSN catalogue (and your library) to buy/play.

But this is all about unpopular opinions, so here goes:
1. Assassin's Creed Unity is a great game, with a protagonist way better than Ezio in terms of personality and development; graphics, animation and cutscenes are fantastic; the story is also good.
2. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag gameplay is simply a copy of ACIII with ships added to it and its story is probably the worst in the series (I didn't care for it at all, not to mention I was completely lost for being all over the place); just adding that I love ACIII, it introduced some great mechanics, the story and the characters were good.
3. Crash Team Racing is, well... meh.
4. Film-to-game titles can be awesome if made right; I loved playing Harry Potter and Pixar-based games on the original PlayStation.

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FullbringIchigo

@RenanKJ yeah one of the reasons i'm still not sold on digital games is things like this (plus a few others)

There was nothing wrong with the way FFXIII was, ALL the FF games before it were linear too they hid it better

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KirbyTheVampire

@BAMozzy I don't think he's a good role model and he absolutely could be a better father, but it's supposed to be that way. A recurring theme throughout the game is redemption, and not letting what you did in the past define your actions and what kind of person you are in the present. We're seeing him progress and struggle through his journey from being a monster to being a good man and father. His development can only continue in the future games, and it would be rather jarring for him to be without flaw right off the bat.

Again, I'm not saying Kratos is a super stand-up guy, but he isn't supposed to be. He's supposed to be a quite flawed man wrestling with his demons and trying to be better than he was.

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BAMozzy

@KirbyTheVampire I am well aware of his history but that still doesn't change the fact that he still acting and behaving in such a way that can construed as manly and that, as you also state in your first line, is a negative - which started this conversation off in the first place. Its that poor role model, that excessively brutish behaviour - especially not in front of a child that some don't particularly like or is necessary either. Obviously a lot of time has passed since the last game, inc marriage and the birth of his child so he could have changed a lot more.

Anyway this is off-topic and perhaps best discussed in the GoW Spoiler thread but it seems that you are agreeing that Kratos is still behaving too 'manly' and that is not a 'good' thing in this case. There is a difference between being a Man and acting 'Manly' and why some may find Kratos difficult to like or identify with.

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BAMozzy

Digital games could depend on where your 'licence' to play is held. If its locked to your profile and on your console, as long as you have all your digital games downloaded and updated, then it shouldn't matter. You will of course lose your PS+ games as that requires an online check to see if your PS+ account is still active I don't know about the licence for games you purchased. The license id different as a PS+ licence is conditional. I know a digital licence is locked to your account unlike a licence on a disc which is general. We may have a clearer idea of what will happen with digital games in the future when the PS3 gets turned off. Its been discontinued for over 2yrs now (EU) and over a year in Japan with March 2019 seeing the end of PS+ support too. Its the first generation were digital games became a thing so it will give us some indication as to their playability once the console is 'turned off' essentially. The PS3 doesn't have BC with PS4 either and when the X360 gets turned off, not all 'digital' games will be on BC either.

Its not as f you can trade them or they add 'value' to your console if you do sell. That for me is one reason why I won't buy digital for 'convenience'. Digital are all about the hear and now, the convenience and not for the long term. When you bought, you were never promised that these would remain playable in the same way physical games are. We all know that games like Destiny, the Division etc are limited to a time frame and that they are not playable indefinitely - whether you buy Physically or not. The more generations you go, the less likely that they will be supported too - generally you only get 1 generation of support if you get any. You didn't get BC with the NES, SNES, N64, Game Cube etc and Sony in particular seemed to be against BC - maybe after getting burned on the OG PS3 so it will be interesting to see what happens. I can see a lot of unhappy people who may rethink their decision on buy digitally!

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themcnoisy

@Kidfried great response. I cant relate to Kratos at all and your comment puts that into context and will actually help me the next time I play GoW.

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"3. Crash Team Racing is, well... meh."
Agreed

"1. Assassin's Creed Unity is a great game,"
Hahahahahahahaha. Good one. Unity was one of the worst gaming experiences I have ever had. I kept glitching through walls. I gave up about an hour in as it played so badly and unoptimised. I think the patches helped for anyone who came to the game late.

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BAMozzy

@Kidfried I don't like Joel either from the Last of Us - at least not as the main character I was playing as and couldn't really identify with his actions or words. I don't necessarily think its a bad thing to have anti-heroes or characteristics we can't identify with as well but I do think that in some cases, that can affect the way we feel about a game.

For me, it made the game-play and structure of LoU much more obvious - same with God of War too actually. I won't talk about GoW's structure hear as its still too soon but with LoU, it made me very away of its 'game-play' loop, the individual sections of each part - whether it was a 'quiet' bit, a kill everything bit before door opens or a 'horde-mode' bit for example. I knew very early on the way the game was going to end despite the early stages trying to push you to think one thing. It became so predictable that you basically knew what would happen to any 'new' Ally you met. It almost became 'by the numbers' - Emotional bit, followed by shooting bit, followed by water/pallet bit, followed by meet someone bit, followed by horde mode bit followed by travel bit etc. Its not that the game was fundamentally bad, it was well polished but because I wasn't so invested in Joel, its limitations - mostly hardware in fairness, became more apparent to me. Other games too had similar 'blocks', maybe not so polished or visually spectacular at that time but because I was more invested in the characters, these 'blocks' didn't seem so obvious. They didn't become another 'Pallet' section or another horde style section even though they probably did have repeating sections like that. Its not exclusive to LoU either as a LOT of linear games like that do have blocks of different game-play that are sequenced together to form a mission/game. Mission 1 may well be basic training starting off with a intro block, some basic movement block until you get a weapon then some 'simple' combat before you face a 'tough' enemy (or enemies) and put what you have learned into one. From then its a case of putting these 'blocks in sequence that fit with the story.

Titanfall 2 is a 'great' example where every mission is virtually the same in terms of construction, start off with your titan. get separated and do some platforming, then some combat, some more platforming, some more combat, some more platforming to get back to your titan and then face off against a titan in a boss fight. The settings may change in each but the basic mission structure doesn't. You may get an extra platforming or combat stage in between but principally, that's virtually every mission and because you end each in your titan by beating a boss, you start each 'next' mission in your titan before getting separated so you then do the Platforming/combat before reuniting to fight the next boss. Again, not to say its fundamentally 'bad' but you can see the 'structure' of the game. The fewer blocks, the more obvious. Some games can through a 'curve-ball' too like CoD4's, they look like ants (in the AC130 mission) or All Ghillied Up which - things that are completely different and not been done before or repeated in that specific game.

For me, the more enjoyable a game is, the more invested in a story I am, the more varied the blocks are, the less obvious the game. If you only have one Horde mode type section, its not so bad but by the third or 4th time it becomes more apparent too. This applies mainly to Linear games as Open world games, although missions may be similar in sequenced blocks, the fact that you have spent time doing various other things in between can lessen these too. If you spent hours and hours since the last 'kill everything to open a door to progress' and most of that was free roaming anywhere and everywhere, its not so bad to come across another block like that later on.

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KALofKRYPTON

Unpopular gaming opinion: Sonic & All Stars Transformed is easily a better game than MK8 (because it is).

Better characters, better tracks, waaaaaayyy better music, better mechanics.

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RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON Entirely seconded. Especially regarding the music!

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FullbringIchigo

@KALofKRYPTON hell yeah

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There was nothing wrong with the way FFXIII was, ALL the FF games before it were linear too they hid it better

50 MINUTES OF FFXV POCKET EDITION HD GAMEPLAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbjRhIumxs

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger @Tasuki @FullbringIchigo
It's kind of a shame about Team Sonic Racing, but I suppose a straight up sequel would've been just as bad a sell as MK8 Deluxe.

TSR is looking a blast to play though. And I'm sure there's bound to be DLC down the road... (see what I did there?).

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FullbringIchigo

@KALofKRYPTON i'm looking forward to team sonic racing but i do wonder if the sonic series has enough characters to a have a well balanced and robust roster

There was nothing wrong with the way FFXIII was, ALL the FF games before it were linear too they hid it better

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KALofKRYPTON

@FullbringIchigo Probably not. But since the teams are all set up as having 3 'types' - I'm guessing that the actual stat variance across the board will be pretty minimal from the outset.

I'm sure there are enough characters to fill it out. As I say, I fully expect some SEGA character dlc to show up. Perhaps teams of different franchises or types? An Arcade racer team; Hang On/Manx TT bike, Sega Rally Celica, and the Daytona Hornet sort of thing...

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KratosMD

@FullbringIchigo I mean, Mario Kart 8 has like four different baby characters, all seven koopalings and odd ones like "Pink Gold Peach", "Tanooki Mario" and "Cat Peach". I'm pretty sure Sonic will have that game beat in that regard.

Since they have included teams now, I'm guessing the last two ones will be Team Chaotix with Espio, Vector and Charmy Bee and Team Silver with Silver, Blaze and one other from Sonic '06. And those are fairly solid choices for a roster based on the Sonic series if you ask me.

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FullbringIchigo

@KratosMD i suppose so but i can't think of anyone else from Sonic 06 the could use

@KALofKRYPTON oh i'm sure we will get DLC and IF it is characters from other games i would LOVE a Skies of Arcadia team

There was nothing wrong with the way FFXIII was, ALL the FF games before it were linear too they hid it better

50 MINUTES OF FFXV POCKET EDITION HD GAMEPLAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbjRhIumxs

"Tea Earl Grey HOT!"

NEW AVATAR!!!!

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD Don't forget, Infinite!!

Metal Sonic and Eggman/Robonik hasn't shown up yet either.

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FullbringIchigo

@KALofKRYPTON nor Chaos either

There was nothing wrong with the way FFXIII was, ALL the FF games before it were linear too they hid it better

50 MINUTES OF FFXV POCKET EDITION HD GAMEPLAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbjRhIumxs

"Tea Earl Grey HOT!"

NEW AVATAR!!!!

DerMeister

Speaking of unpopular Sonic opinions, I really want Blaze to return as a playable character in a main title. Blaze in my opinion was the best of the characters introduced in the 2000's, being able to keep up with Sonic gameplay wise, and having fire powers. She fits in the series well enough and it would be cool if she was playable again.

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