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JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Ha ha no in the uk we don't really say throw my two pence in. The only time I've heard something like that is when football hooligans throw coins at matches.

JohnnyShoulder

RogerRoger

@JohnnyShoulder @Th3solution Hey, some of us say "just my two pence" (or even "tuppence" but only if I'm wearing my top hat and monocle... speaking of which, when it comes to opinions or conversational contributions, we also throw our hats into rings, too).

I'll throw mine in now; I agree with everybody posting about Netflix and the difficulty of keeping up with current television. Binge-watching an entire series of something, because it's released fourteen episodes at a time, has become the new normal and it's worn me down. If you don't watch something immediately on release, it'll inevitably get spoiled for you by some loud-mouth, so you feel obligated to drop everything and absorb an entire season over a weekend (to the point where episodes blend together and you can't quite remember what happened to what characters when... and then Netflix auto-skips the recaps and it's just all a big mess). Then it's an entire year, minus the couple days it took you to watch it, before the next season continues the storyline whereas before, when shows used to be released over a nine-month period, you'd only have to wait out the summer.

I actually didn't mind when Netflix announced that two shows I was looking forward to, Star Trek: Discovery and Designated Survivor, would be released weekly over the course of their standard seasons... and yet, I missed the first couple episodes of the latter show, so just said "ah, I'll wait until it's done and then binge-watch the entire season", thus kinda trampling all over my point (and, to make matters worse, the former show was just a massive disappointment on every possible level, which made tuning in every week some kind of masochistic exercise).

First World Problems and all, but it adds a layer of pressure and anxiety to what's supposed to be a relaxing, enjoyable recreational activity.

And I don't read half as much as I used to, either.

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."
Cpt. Jean-Luc Picard, Stardate: 42923.4

Th3solution

@RogerRoger @JohnnyShoulder This is a little off topic, but can I say I just love reading this site because of the contributors from all over the world. The different slang and idioms used here are fun to read. As gamers we speak a relatively common vernacular, and the internet has homogenized language quite a bit, but I still enjoy the different cultural wrinkles that are displayed through the forum and article comments.

On the subject, I used to watch The Office, and when I found out the US version of this show was actually a knock-off of a British show, I watched a couple episodes of the original version. I quickly abandoned it because I didn’t find it nearly as funny as the Steve Carell led show, and I attributed this to just a cultural difference in what Americans found humorous versus Brits. I had a similar impression of Mr. Bean/Johnny English, another show/character that had a little bit of traction in the US at one time, but I just never got it. However I think I am realizing that our collective sense of humor among native English speakers is more alike than different. Although some British and Australian shows do not appeal to an American viewer and vice versa, I think that amazingly most of the time we like the same things. For example I see a lot of users from the UK and Australia that like South Park and American Dad, which I would expect that humor to be very “North American” but obviously it is more universal. Furthermore I frequently read comments on here that make me literally laugh out loud, even though some will fall flat when I don’t understand a British slang term or cultural reference.
Maybe it’s the fact we have the common gaming background that makes us appreciate the same TV and comedy. When I see Japanese shows and games, I can appreciate their style of humor and entertainment, even though I think the average American would brush it off as strange, awkward, or overly exaggerated. But for me, I love the quirkiness.
Anyway, sorry about the random ramblings of someone trying to function on too little sleep.

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

RogerRoger

@Th3solution Oh, I followed you, don't worry!

There's a heck of a lot of crossover between English-speaking cultures, the "big three" being the UK, Australia and the States. In terms of television (to keep us tentatively on-topic) there are many examples of this; Australian soap operas Neighbours and Home & Away are almost as popular here in Britain as our own shows, and I've lost count of the amount of show concepts or franchises that get swapped between us... usually comedy, like The Thick of It becoming Veep or, as you say, the two versions of The Office (that made me chuckle, because I cannot stand the UK original, I think it's hateful and incredibly un-funny, but the clips I've seen of the American remake have always made me laugh... but then that's probably because I'm a walking case study of this crossover phenomenon, as almost all of my favourite television shows come from the States and it's rare that I champion or enjoy British programming).

I think it does depend on the individual and what they're interested in / prepared to tolerate. You lament that the internet has homogenised (with an S, not a Z, thank you) cultural ideosyncrasies, but in doing that it has also allowed people to access forms of entertainment from across the world. Gone are the days when you had five channels and everybody watched the same thing at the same time; watercooler discussions have become much more varied because whilst somebody was watching BBC One, another was on Netflix and a third was catching up on that Discovery Channel thing they recorded (and heck, since we're on Push Square, chances are one of those people wasn't even watching anything, but playing some quirky Japanese game they'd downloaded from PSN, a service which has done nothing but broaden the available catalogue of experiences).

That watercooler scenario, however, still plays a part. If everybody else is watching the same thing, you'd better join in, otherwise you can't be part of the conversation. That's what can contribute towards the feeling that the average person, as you say, would brush off something different as "strange, awkward, or overly exaggerated" because they simply can't indulge their curiosity if they're having to binge-watch something on Netflix to keep up with their peers (and that, rather neatly, brings us full circle to where this conversation started).

We gamers tend to understand this a little more, I think it's fair to say, as gaming has a unique way of involving the player in an unfolding narrative. We understand something far better when we're invested in it and given a sense of agency. Television, as well as films and books, don't give that degree of control or input, they simply tell a story at you.

Anyway, my two pence rapidly became a tenner, so I'll leave it there for now!

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."
Cpt. Jean-Luc Picard, Stardate: 42923.4

RR529

Finished up Marvel's the Punisher (Netflix Original). It was pretty decent, but not one of my favorite Netflix Originals (the same can be said about all their Marvel shows though). Definitely gets the award for most violent, though.

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KratosMD

Speaking of Marvel shows, Jessica Jones season 2 is coming out next week on the 8th of March on Netflix. Really looking forward to watching more of that show!

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

JohnnyShoulder

@KratosMD Me too, the first season felt a bit different to the normal superhero fare.

JohnnyShoulder

KratosMD

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah it felt more down to earth compared to other shows. Jessica feels like a normal person that you'd find anywhere, which I like. It's probably my second favourite Marvel show after The Punisher. It's so good!

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

JohnnyShoulder

@KratosMD It got quite dark later on and asked some pretty serious moral questions.

JohnnyShoulder

KratosMD

I haven't voiced my thoughts on Riverdale in a while now, but right now I need to say that season 2 has been absolutely stellar and much better than the first one. Instead of focusing on mostly teenage drama as in S1, S2 focuses much more on serious adult themes and that's a good way to lead the show. I'm always so excited every time a new episode comes out now, definitely one of the best shows to follow right now on Netflix.

I'm also watching Jessica Jones S2. The beginning episodes have been incredibly slow and it feels like the plot is unfolding really slowly. Currently on episode 4 and it feels like things are finally starting to get interesting. Hopefully they keep it up throughout the rest of the season, because I would hate to watch a lacklustre season of a show that I absolutely adore (which was the case with Black Sails, sadly).

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Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

RR529

Blazing Transfer Students: Reborn!! (Netflix Original) - Actually watched this months ago, but forgot to mention it here. Best I can gather, it's a live action sequel to a manga, and it's as zany as you'd imagine (if you want to watch a show full of Japanese weirdness, you couldn't find any weirder on Netflix). Good, stupid fun.

Good Morning Call season 2 (Netflix Original) - I loved season 1 (it was one of my favorite shows of 2016), so I was stoked to see a season 2 pop up. I didn't like it quite as much (though it may be because the novelty has worn off, as I've since seen other series in the same genre), but I still very much enjoyed it, and even teared up during the finale.

Fuller House season 3, part 2 (Netflix Original) - Still a pretty fun show to follow if you're up for it's brand of nostalgia tinged cheesiness. They even did an episode in Japan this season which was pretty cool.

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KratosMD

@RR529 I freaking loved Blazing Transfer Students and Good Morning Call (both seasons), easily two of my favourite Japanese TV shows on Netflix. I'd love to see another season of Good Morning Call, I just like these kinds of relaxing shows as I also get to take in Japan and its culture.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

RR529

@KratosMD, since you enjoyed Good Morning Call I'd also suggest Mischievous Kiss: Love in Tokyo & My Little Lover (two shows I didn't think I seen on your list of Japanese shows).

Mischievous Kiss is VERY similar to GMC, but longer (it's only 2 seasons as well, but each season has more episodes), and covers the protagonists' romance from high school, through university, into the workforce. Interestingly enough, there's even an episode where a few characters are reading the Good Morning Call manga, lol.

My Little Lover is the shortest of the bunch (just one 10 episode season), but also the most unique. The female protagonist is shrunk down to the size of a doll and ends up in the care of the neighbor boy, who she's loved since childhood, and is the only one who knows of her condition. Funnily enough, there's a character who occasionally reads the Mischevious Kiss manga, lol.

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KratosMD

@RR529 None of them are on Netflix, though. :/ I would easily watch them otherwise but I strictly watch on Netflix now. Maybe they'll come to the service in the future.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

RR529

@KratosMD, They are on Netflix here in the States. Keep forgetting this is a UK based site, and that you might not have access to the same titles.

On another note, I like that when a character in a Japanese show is playing a video game, they're actually playing it (as opposed to western shows, where the camera is usually placed behind the TV so you can't see what's on the screen, or it's filled with mock CG "gameplay" from a fake game).

  • I remember Uehara could be seen playing Devil May Cry & Gran Turismo in season 1 of GMC, and I think Resident Evil VII in season 2.
  • In Hibana Spark someone was playing a freakin' Dreamcast (I think Crazy Taxi)!
  • Then you have Final Fantasy XIV: Dad of Light, which should be self explanatory.

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KratosMD

@RR529 Oh really? Now I'm really hoping that those shows reach us here in the EU. I'd love to watch them!

Yeah, and most Western shows always have people button mashing literally everything on a controller even though you never do that in a game. It's kinda cringey actually.. Also, didn't Uehara play Street Fighter IV in the first season? I definitely remember him playing on a PS3 and playing Gran Turismo 5 and SFIV. I also remember one episode where they had him play on a PS4 then they switched back to the PS3 for some reason, lol.

Speaking of Hibana Spark, I watched the first couple of episodes and I just couldn't get into it. The show just felt so pointless, nothing was happening and the plot felt ludicrous. Such a weird show.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KratosMD

Speaking of Japanese TV shows, I saw that a new one was added to Netflix yesterday called 'Terrace House: Opening New Doors' and I am absolutely loving it. It's basically a reality show where a bunch of participants are sent to a remote house where they'll live and interact with each other. It's more or less Japan's take on Big Brother, without all the filthiness you would normally see in a show like that (and less restricting on what the participants are able to do, i.e. they can leave the house and go do other things). This show is incredibly mature and formal in comparison (which is what you would expect from Japan), which is why I like it a lot. Highly recommend it!

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Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

RR529

I tried watching the first season of Terrace House when it came out a few years ago, but just couldn't get into it. As much as I like Japanese programs, my dislike for the "reality tv" genre was just too much.

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PS_Nation

I'm binge-watching two comedy shows now: Community and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

PS_Nation

KratosMD

@RR529 Yeah I don't like reality TV shows either because a lot of them are so sleazy but Terrace House is AMAZING. I love the commentators, they're so funny and the participants are nice and varied. I get so easily immersed in the show.

Finished watching the first part of Opening New Doors (current show) and I started watching Aloha State a couple of days ago. I've already seen 16 episodes and there are still 16 more to go, jeez lol. Not to mention that Boys and Girls in the City (the first Netflix show) is 46 episodes long! I'm going to be watching this show for months, I love it!

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

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