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@Ralizah Yeah, I can (mostly) stomach older, tense and atmospheric horror or thriller films. It's when films revel in gore, or are designed specifically to make you jump, that I get uncomfortable. As each year ticks by, the tricks employed by older horror films become commonplace in other genres. I mean, half the stuff in an average season of 24 would've been groundbreaking back in the day.

The thing about The Shining is that I've seen THAT Treehouse of Horror episode of The Simpsons, so many of the twists would just remind me of that. I have a safety net, so to speak, but your excellent insights genuinely got me interested, so thanks again.

@mookysam It's almost as though they deliberately made St. Petersburg seem dull in places, because it only adds to the impact of the moment the tank comes blasting through that wall. Such a fantastic, iconic moment and a brilliant sequence in a brilliant film. I haven't seen Notes on a Scandal, not yet, but I've seen Judi Dench in plenty of films over the years, each one completely owned by her presence and performance. She's a national treasure, and one of the few actors who'll make me go see a film regardless of plot or genre, simply because she's involved. Last one was Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, she led an incredibly strong cast that was a joy to behold, despite it really not being my kind of movie.

I've watched Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough since posting last. I'll try and keep my thoughts restrained, but these two do nothing but reinforce my Brosnan support. Previously, I'd noted how it was the PSone game adaptation of Tomorrow Never Dies that got me into Bond, and when I finally got to see the film itself, it was taped from a commercial channel which had edited it down to make room for advert breaks. Half the car chase was missing, as were many scene-setting moments, like Bond's arrival on the roof of Carver's printing press and his use of the cell phone's hidden skeleton key. Another family member had also randomly taped over three minutes of the bike chase with Kylie Minogue on Top of the Pops, which made for a surreal viewing experience where everything looked deadly for Double-Oh Seven, we cut to a musical number, and then back to Bond and Wai Linn going "Phew, that was close!" with flames and wreckage in the background.

I said I was gonna keep this short... anyway, what better way to move on from the Cold War than by basically taking on Rupert Murdoch? Tomorrow Never Dies is a timely, sharply satirical film punctuated by over-the-top action and great performances. The game (and certain scenes from its cutscenes) give me a strong bias towards it, but it's a bias I don't really want to shake. It's a smart, stylish film. Michelle Yeoh is fantastic (because she always is) and Jonathan Pryce makes Elliot Carver an incredibly memorable villain. I'd also grown up with Teri Hatcher as Lois Lane in Lois & Clark, so seeing her play a Bond Girl, one with a past and a strong impact on Bond himself, is great fun. I even love the BMW 750iL because it perfectly fits Bond's cover as an investment banker, and it has some incredible toys. Nice to see Jack Wade back, too. Can't fault it.

The World is Not Enough is a film of two halves. The action is bigger than ever and you can see parts of it steering towards the outlandish spectacle of Die Another Day, but at the core it's the most complex, character-driven Bond film ever (even beating some of the Daniel Craig scripts). What if Bond fell in love with his nemesis, and didn't know it? Renard isn't the true villain of the piece; the stunning Sophie Marceau is, who plays Elektra King to perfection. Brosnan is amazing in his scenes with her, never quite sure how to measure her and always showing the layers to his performance in just the right amounts. Give M a more personal, larger role, put Bond in the gorgeous BMW Z8 and throw in a comedic-at-the-right-moments and yet meaningful return for Zukovsky and you've got all the elements for a classic.

Okay, so I'll admit two small flaws. Firstly, as soon as Bond figures out the truth about Elektra, the film drops all pretence because Bond can't possibly be wrong... can he? There's a great edge to his confrontation of her, where you think he could've made a mistake and that the real plot is about how Bond can never get close anybody because he's always waiting to be betrayed, and then we're rushed off to the pipeline sequence where Elektra walks around smirking behind M's back, showing her hand to the audience. I'd have liked the mystery and doubt kept up a little longer; could've been really interesting. By this point, though, we've already met the second flaw; Denise Richards as Christmas Jones. I won't blast her acting ability, since I actually think she does perfectly fine in the role and quite like her character, but as soon as she appears we know she's the real Bond Girl of the piece, so we're waiting for the other shoe to drop with Elektra.

Despite those tiny niggles with the pacing and structure, The World is Not Enough remains a true favourite because of the glimpses and insights into Bond's character it gives us. All of Brosnan's films offer something above and beyond "action spy thriller" in this way, apparently because Brosnan pushed for it and wouldn't play the role without such an element, and I think this film does it best.

Also, the farewell to Desmond Llewelyn still makes me cry. So perfect.

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mookysam

@RogerRoger Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough are both strong outings, especially the former. That does sound like an odd first viewing experience for TND. It reminds me of when one of my Beauty and the Beast VHS got taped over for about 10 seconds with some random crap off the television.

Fully agree with your thoughts on Tomorrow Never Dies. Mitchell's Yeoh is pretty amazing. She's an exceptional martial artist, and it really adds to the action scenes. The motorcycle chase is a particularly great scene. Watching the film for the first time in many years, it really struck me just how relevant the "evil media overlord" plot really is - perhaps even more so than in 1997. I have to say those elements largely went over my head when I watched it as a 12 year old. Overall, the film is nicely edited, well structured and well made. A great follow up to Goldeneye. The only negative I can really think of is the Sheryl Crow song, because she sounds like a cat in a tumble dryer.

The World is Not Enough has always been memorable for me because the first time I watched it was for part of my GCSEs in 2001. The first half is good "classic Bond" and I especially love the boat chase on the Thames. In general it's very action heavy, with lots of explosions. I approve. Judi Dench's increased role is also very much appreciated. Sophie Marceau makes an excellent and complex villain. She's beautiful and gives Bond a run for his money, but I agree that he susses Elektra a little too easily, and from then the film falls into the not uncommon trap of dropping all pretence. The audience thinks she's possibly a bad'un, and so she acts like one at every opportunity.

Denise Richards is a bad actress, but I find her comedic. I don't hate her and I disagree with those who say that she "ruins the film", because she absolutely doesn't. Thumbs up to Robbie Coltrane's return and the Garbage song. Sad to say goodbye to Desmond Llewelyn.

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@mookysam Of all the films to be randomly taped over, I don't think you could find two further apart! And I'm with you; not just on Sheryl Crow sounding like a cat in a tumble dryer (not that I'd wanna know what that sounds like, of course, but I really wish they'd stuck with k.d.lang's song, Surrender, which plays over the credits and was written by David Arnold, which is why you hear its melody throughout the film's score) but also on the fact that, when I was younger, I missed the clever real-world subtext of the Bond scripts and just tapped into the action, style, cars and humour.

Speaking of which, when I just opened up my homepage, BBC News, the top story was about North Korea... and I've just finished watching Die Another Day. I apologise for the two massive walls of text in such a short space of time, but I'll only have smartphone access from tomorrow until next Tuesday, so wanted to get this down before I forgot everything I wanted to say.

This was the first Bond film I felt a part of. Friends at school told me pre-production snippets and rumours. Trailers built hype. The first half of 2002 was dominated by Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones, but the latter months were all about Die Another Day. It was the first Bond film I saw at the cinema, spoiler-free, on release day. It's also incredible that you mentioned your GCSEs because I sat mine in the summer of 2003, right around when the DVD came out, and I remember a couple days beforehand completing my Art final exam, which was a whole day and we were allowed to listen to music whilst we worked. I had the soundtrack CD on a loop for the entire thing, re-building the hype for the home release. In fact, being a huge fan of film, television and game soundtracks and listening to almost nothing else, I'd say Die Another Day's score is the one I've listened to the most. I think it's perfect; the bursts of techno weaving between a grand, classic orchestral composition just feel so right. There's always another layer to focus on and enjoy.

I mentioned the Star Wars prequels deliberately up there. Die Another Day came out right in the middle of them, in an era when escapist cinema was opening up to a whole new level of CGI spectacle. I cannot, will not and won't ever blame Lee Tamahori, or anybody else, for pushing the envelope. Bond films have always reflected the times and if there was ever a moment to try something so extreme with Bond, this was it. Watching it today, in 2018 on Blu-Ray on a 40" 4K television, I don't mind admitting that some of the CGI isn't amazing, but none of it is as terrible or as offensive as some would make out, and it's certainly better than when they did space laser superweapons in the 70s. It holds together, ice tsunami para-surfing and all.

You've also got to remember that Bond games dragged me into the franchise, so the complaints about parts of Die Another Day feeling "like a videogame" tend to go over my head. Either that, or I agree with them as factual observations, but not as complaints. Case in point; Bond's VR training simulation. Very deliberately shot as to feel like a game, with an over-the-shoulder camera, but I love it and, crucially, it worked with audiences at the time. The gasp in the cinema when Bond finds Moneypenny shot in the head was brilliant! The internet has a habit of retroactively judging and deciding the fate of things somewhat out of context, but I get quite defensive about this film in particular, because I was there. This film was loved, and it was financially successful, too.

Being a relatively new Bond fan at the time, I delighted at the countless references, nods and in-jokes they squeezed into this 40th Anniversary film. I still notice new parallels or prop gags to this day (the scene in Q's reliquary alone would require constant freeze-frames to count about twenty) and I'm impressed at how well the film holds up under its own weight AND under the weight of the legacy it carries. Since there was a fantastical, adventurous spirit to parts of the script, especially the second half, I'm glad they felt that they could have fun with it. A decade later, for the 50th Anniversary, Skyfall would do the duty far more seriously and that's okay, but I'm glad Die Another Day exists as an unabashed out-and-out celebration of Bond's cinematic (and literary) history.

Brosnan does it again, of course. His incredibly strong performance aside, I've also noticed that he does more of his own stunts here, in his final film, than he did in his previous three. There are obvious stunt double moments in GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough, but I struggle to find any in Die Another Day. You watch sequences like the fencing duel and it's all him, and that takes some serious training, skill and commitment (trust me; watching this film made me take up fencing and it's much, much tougher than it looks). With the action quota higher every time, I've got nothing but respect for Brosnan who, at this stage, was pushing fifty. He still looks fantastic in a tuxedo, handles the darker torture sequences well (another first for the franchise) and can sell a one-liner as well as Roger Moore could. His performance in this film alone is dictionary-definition Bond... well, cinematic Bond. The literary Bond, I leave to others.

It's a very solid debut performance from Rosamund Pike, her discovery for this film launching a very successful career, and rightly so. Graves has always been interesting to me. In all Bond films, there's an underlying suspension of disbelief required to sit back and enjoy the ride, and so some of the twists regarding the gene therapy are just fine with me. Toby Stephens makes for an okay villain to begin with, until Graves reveals that he based himself on Bond, and then you get the gag. Bond's real mirror, however, is Halle Berry's Jinx. I love her, and not just because she emerges from the sea in slow motion (seriously, I have zero interest in women, and I still would). She's flirting with Bond as much as he is with her, and her mission throughout the entire storyline runs parallel to Bond's for almost two-thirds, with her usually one step ahead of him. At the time, she was modern, sassy and capable, and I'm glad that's reflected in the big finale, where her clash with Frost is given just as much focus and importance as Bond's fight with Graves. Zao makes for a neat henchman (with his own gadget-laden car!) and I like that the film keeps a wider focus on that cast of five. Usually, it's just Bond, a villain and a girl, with others coming and going, and yes, other cool folk pop up here (Raoul is great, nice to see Charles Robinson for a third time, and Mister Kil is worth it for his introductory one-liner and spectacular death) but it always comes back around to Bond, Jinx, Graves, Frost and Zao. They have relationships built between them, with performances reinforcing their complex character backstories through mannerisms and glances as well as exposition.

I could go on about the car duel, or the gorgeous location shoot in Iceland (parts of which I'd been on a school trip to mere months before they started filming), or the fact that the hovercraft chase was filmed on the Aldershot Military Range, fifteen minutes from my childhood home. Basically, this is my Bond. You ask me about him and I'll think of this film, and that'll then launch me into the wider franchise, but Die Another Day remains near-perfect in my eyes. My biased, nostalgia-focused misty eyes? Absolutely. Wouldn't have it any other way.

When I'm back next week, I'll run through the Daniel Craig films (in far, far shorter posts).

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Ralizah

@WanderingBullet Oh, is Deadpool 2 out already. I liked the first one for what it was. Although, you know, most of that movie's appeal was in Reynold's snarking. The actual movie around him... eh.

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mookysam

@RogerRoger No need to apologise for the long posts, I have enjoyed reading them.

Die Another Day. I said last week that this was one of my least favourite Bond films, though as with Moonraker there are still a few elements I liked. What has been interesting to me is that we have agreed on almost everything apart from Moonraker and Die Another Day. That's not bad, eh.

I only watched Die Another Day for the very first time last month - it was the only pre-Craig film I had never seen before - so I don't have any nostalgia attached to it. Even though our opinions differ, it's really interesting to read the big impact the film had on you. It's funny you mention the art exam, because we weren't allowed to have a Walkman when I did mine, although the radio was on in the background. Our class got moderated and everyone ended up with a C.

In many ways Die Another Day is very stylistically a film of its time. Also during that period CG was starting to be very heavily used. I do feel the green screen is overused and has aged it, but being a film from 2002 when most action films were doing exactly the same thing, it it hard to condemn Die Another Day for having contemporary production standards. I'm not a massive fan of the direction or editing compared to its direct predecessors, however.

As you say there is always a certain level of suspension of disbelief required when viewing any Bond film. For me, the plot of Die Another Day is past that level and I think that is the primary reason it just doesn't gel with me.

Bits I like are Jinx (my initial thought was is she working to destroy the Cuban Healthcare system?) and the section in the Ice hotel. Miranda Frost is hilarious!

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@Ralizah Yup, it started screening over here today. If you love his snarking, then there's more of it in the sequel.haha

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Saw Black Panther last week. Thought it was alright, but definitely overrated. Paled in comparison to Thor Ragnarok.

I've also been watching Bond films for the past couple of months (not in order) so here's all the ones I've seen from favorite to least favorite (along with some brief thoughts on the films).

1. Goldfinger- This was one of my favorite movies before I re watched it for the umpteenth time and after watching it again, it still is.

2. From Russia With Love- Another outstanding film. Admittedly can't think of any specific reasons why this one's ranked so high other than the fact that it just does everything so darn well.

3. The Spy Who Loved Me- After watching this one, I can see why many people regard this one as Moore's best film. I like how Bond works with a Russian agent, Jaws is my second favorite henchmen (Oddjob has to come first), Stromberg is a great villain and the Lotus Espirit submarine car just rules.

4. Dr. No- It may be the worst and it may have a sorry budget, but it's still one of the best. Dr. No is a terrific villain and of course I don't think I need to say anything about the theme song.

5. You Only Live Twice- You would think that Bond and Japan would be a match made in heaven, and you would be right. The part where Bond is disguised as a Japanese looks pretty ridiculous, but the rest of the film is great (especially the part with the volcano base).

6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service- This one would be higher, but this one takes too long to get started. Once Bond finally reaches Switzerland, the film really shows it's stuff. The main theme is quite good as well.

7. Tomorrow Never Dies- Really like the idea of Bond going up against the mass media. Carver is an great villain as well.

8. Goldeneye- Bond going up against a former MI6 agent was also a great idea.

9. For Your Eyes Only- I liked this one, although it felt more like a best-of James Bond than a new film.

10. Thunderball- This used to be one of my favorite Bond films. After rewatching it though, I honestly don't know what I was thinking. The pacing isn't the greatest, and the underwater scenes aren't all that interesting. I still think it's a decent film though.

11. Live and Let Die- This one is ok, but it has several notable flaws. The plot isn't as interesting as the
rest of the films on this list (you would think that Bond would have more important things to worry about instead of drug smugglers). Kananga/Mr. Big is also a bit of a boring villain, and the boat chase scene drags on for too long. The best part of this film is the main theme.

I really need to get back to watching more of these (I've been taking a bit of a break from movie watching). I also know that I need to watch Casino Royale, but I wanted to focus on watching the older films first.

@Ralizah You're not the only one who feels that way about The Shining (I watched it a couple of months ago along with several other horror films). I did appreciate the freakier aspects though as it made the film stand out for me (I'll also admit that I'm not of a massive horror fan, so that doesn't really help with my opinion of the film). The only real reason I saw this one was that Stanley Kubrick was supposed to be a great director that made great movies but after seeing a couple of his, the other one being 2001: A Space Odyssey which is supposedly the best science fiction film ever made (hmmmm...), I'm starting to think that people might overrate his films a wee bit too much.

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RogerRoger

I'm actually gonna walk away from Bond for now. There's some heavy stuff I'm dealing with and knowing the forthcoming Daniel Craig films so well, I'm definitely leaning more towards escapist, overblown fantasy to prop up my current mental state (part of the reason why I enjoyed re-watching Die Another Day so much, I think). With his final film confirmed for next year, I think I'll return to Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall and SPECTRE a month or two ahead of its release as part of the hype. Since it's also a reboot of the franchise, it's the best place to leave things.

Yesterday I picked up Batman Ninja on Blu-Ray and I've been in a bit of a Star Wars mood lately, so those are the kinda things I'll veer towards.

@mookysam Particular thanks for responding to my Bond thoughts and chatting through our opinions. We do seem to agree on a vast majority of the franchise, which is heartening!

Ah, yes... watching Die Another Day for the first time in April 2018 would definitely create a different outcome! Large parts of it cannot hold up in a post-Craig and post-Bourne genre but, for me, that's part of the charm. It's like Raoul says to Bond in Cuba: "You'd be surprised how many come to me for little reminders of our decadent past." For me, Die Another Day is the last hurrah of a traditional cinematic Bond adventure, with everything dialled up to eleven, and I'll therefore always love it.

There's also a wildly unfair dismissal of the film for the CGI elements which, in fact, aren't in every single action sequence. The hovercraft chase, the fencing sequence, the car battle on (and inside) ice, the Icarus satellite, the Antonov plane, the destruction of the DMZ minefield... all examples of incredible practical stunt work, practical effects or beautiful miniature shoots. When they drive those cars through the immense Ice Palace set, I still get goosebumps, and I've seen this film a good twenty times. I'm glad you singled out the Ice Palace for praise; it's one of the iconic Bond sets for me, alongside Stromberg's tanker and Blofeld's volcano.

Your thought about Jinx going up against the Cuban healthcare system made me chuckle; I'd never thought of that particular geopolitical subtext before, and it's rare to find a new angle on something I've been so obsessed with for so long. Thank you!

@cheetahman91 Great rankings; we certainly disagree in some key places, but I can totally understand your perspective. We also agree on Thunderball, which gives me some comfort because it's usually such a beloved entry, yet actually watching (and, at times, comprehending) it can be a serious test of one's patience. I think, for some, there's a lot of nostalgia mixed in there (which isn't a criticism, given the role it plays in my glowing opinion of Die Another Day).

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mookysam

@RogerRoger Sorry to hear that, I hope you feel better soon. The Craig films don't have the "fun" of the classic ones and can be heavy viewing, especially in succession, so I can see why you'd put rewatching them on hold for now. I hope that with Craig's successor they find a place for some of the silliness and gadgets of the older ones.

What other film series do you like? I know you're a Star Wars and Star Trek fan.

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Octane

I just came back from watching Solo. It gets a 'nope' from me.

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RogerRoger

@mookysam Thanks. They do actually start to inject more of the classic style and tone by the time SPECTRE rolls around, so I'm hoping Craig's finale is another step in that direction. The world has been through a pretty serious couple of decades and entertainment has reflected that, but we were starting to see a softening towards more lighthearted escapism. Something tells me that there's been a bit of a knee-jerk reaction against that in recent years, but Bond has always been "two minutes into the future" so my fingers are tightly crossed.

Yep, besides Bond and Batman, Star Wars and Star Trek are the franchises I tend to obsess over, but that's obviously a big leap from a contemporary spy (well, Moonraker aside). I have, however, been thinking of re-watching the Indiana Jones films; they were born out of Steven Spielberg's desire to direct a Bond film, after all. I love them, but haven't watched them in a good four or five years. In fact, I love any good, lighthearted "Hero McHeroism and the Room Full of Old Things" adventure film, like The Mummy (Brendan Fraser, not Tom Cruise) or National Treasure.

Otherwise, the obvious way to lighten the mood after Bond is to head towards the spoofs; things like Austin Powers, Johnny English and even the Naked Gun films make for fantastic comedy counterparts. It's either that, or turn to the wonders of Netflix and have a browse around for any one-off film that might take my fancy. Last time I did that, I ended up finding Bridge of Spies and had no regrets (not the tone I'm currently looking for, mind).

What about you?

@Octane Sorry to hear that, although I'm not surprised in the slightest. I'll be waiting for the Blu-Ray but, even then, something tells me that I won't be rushing to grab it right away. After the incredible success of Rogue One, I still can't comprehend why Disney's next spin-off was a concept so hideously unoriginal.

If you've got the time, would you mind elaborating slightly on why you didn't like it, specifically?

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@RogerRoger Hey, I did like Rogue One quite a lot!

I don't think I can pinpoint a specific reason why I didn't like it. I'm also not sure if I liked it more or less than The Last Jedi, because I think both aren't great, but for different reasons.

It's quite cheesy (in the bad way) and predictable, although there's a bit of flip-flopping near the end that makes you question it all, but that part doesn't last more than a few minutes. If they were trying to implement a plot twist, it didn't work for me unfortunately. There's a lot of new locations and new characters in this one, and it feels like they're in a new location every ten minutes. It's too much, it all feels a bit rushed. Characters come and go, there's hardly any sentimental value watching a character die that was only introduced a few minutes before. And, although I'm not too surprised since it's Disney, I felt they were pushing a political agenda a little too much. I bought a ticket to watch a film, not a lesson on cultural and political sociology. The rest is standard fare of what you would expect from a ''Han Solo film'', basically all the things we know about his past, but now on the big screen.

And there's the ending? Cliffhanger, I guess. Not sure what they were going with that, since I don't think a direct sequel has been confirmed, nor do I think it ties very well into the other films...

After seeing Rogue One, I expected more from the spin-offs, this one felt just unnecessary.

I don't look up reviews for films (and games) I'm going to see regardless, but it doesn't surprise me to see that Solo did pretty bad, even for prequel (and TJL) standards.

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keihtg

@Octane Uh oh, you didn't like Solo? I'm not sure what to expect from this one...of all the new Star Wars movies, this is the only one NOT to make me boil over in anticipation (trailers weren't that great).

How would you rank it compared to the other new Star Wars movies? So far I'd go like this:

  • Rogue One
  • Episode 8 (great movie, but very disappointing at the same time, LOL)
  • Episode 7 (wouldn't be so bad had the sequel delivered better on the plot setups started here)

EDIT : oops, you just kinda ranked the new movies in your last response, haha...

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Octane

@smelly_jr I guess I could add that I think that The Force Awakens was fine, not my favourite, but I like it more than the prequels I think, and definitely more than TLJ and Solo.

I actually liked the first trailer more than the second one. I hoped they were stepping out of their comfort zone, and were doing a cyberpunk-ish Star Wars film, maybe even something neo-noir. I would have loved that I think. The second trailer was definitely more standard Hollywood fare than the first one, so I went in with low expectations.

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Ralizah

Rogue One is definitely the best Disney Star Wars film so far. Great balance of nostalgia with a new 'feel' and execution (unlike certain others films COUGHTHEFORCEAWAKENSCOUGH), an uncompromising and satisfying ending, and a more interesting and likable cast of characters than in the new mainline films.

Octane wrote:

And, although I'm not too surprised since it's Disney, I felt they were pushing a political agenda a little too much. I bought a ticket to watch a film, not a lesson on cultural and political sociology.

Oh goody. That means that we'll get a whole 'nother slew of articles explaining how SW fans are "toxic" once the fan backlash inevitably happens. Again.

I'm not going to see this when it releases, and, judging from the fact that even critics are lukewarm on it, I think I made the right choice.

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Octane

@Ralizah Luckily I don't have to pay for the tickets, it's always good to know a person or two who work at the cinema!

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@RogerRoger I think you’ll find that the Indiana Jones films haven’t really held up too well, and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is awful. I love anything with Harrison Ford in it, and I give Lucas and Spielberg quite a bit of leeway due to their other ventures, but honestly IJ is pretty cheesy. Maybe I’m spoiled by Uncharted.

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Ralizah

@Th3solution Well, yes, Indiana Jones films are cheesy. And racist. And sexist. etc. etc. Not only are they reasonably old films at this point, but they were a throwback to pulpy adventure serials from the '30's. It's a part of their charm. It helps to inform their particular character.

Here's an unpopular opinion: I don't think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was all that bad. I think fans reacted poorly to certain plot elements that they would have downplayed the impact of if the film were older and viewed through a more nostalgic lens.

Oh, and to address the comment about Uncharted: even the aliens from KotCS weren't as bad as the zombie-vampire whatevers from Uncharted 1 or the random yeti from Uncharted 2 .

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mookysam

@RogerRoger I guess one reason I want Bond to be more light-hearted again (bearing in mind I still haven't seen Spectre and won't til it's back on Netflix) is precisely because the world is a pretty grim place. Films that reflect that have their place, of course, and I enjoy a variety of genres, but escapism is nice too. Spoof films are often good fun when you're a fan of the source material. I absolutely loved the Naked Gun films when I was a child, but haven't seen them in years so am not too sure how they hold up nowadays. Austin Powers always makes me chuckle, especially because of how much it rips into the James Bond films.

In terms of favourite series, I especially love Lord of the Rings. Not ashamed to admit my love for Harry Potter either. I'm with you on the Mummy (first two Brendan Fraser ones) and Indiana Jones! I got the Indiana Jones Blu Rays a few years ago and it's probably time to watch them again. Also a big fan of Jurassic Park (less so the third film) and have been since I was young. Me and my brother were obsessed with dinosaurs. Jurassic World is awesome and I'm really looking forward to its sequel. Batman and classic Ghostbusters are on the list of favourites too.

Star Trek was always on in my house growing up because my Dad is a huge fan, so I'm quite fond of that. Likewise with Star Wars. I've been working through the Clone Wars TV series over the past few months.

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