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mookysam

Into the Spiderverse is ace @RogerRoger! It's quite frenetically paced to start with, but thoroughly enjoyable. The script is snappy, the characters are likeable and as @The3solution pointed out it has very interesting artistry. It's CG but looks like it's stop-motion with a slight comic-book style traidtionally animated filter to it.

Thank you NHS

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JohnnyShoulder

@mookysam To add to what @mookysam and @Th3solution say, Into the Spider-Verse is fantastic and I'm quite fussy with my animated stuff. When I first started watching it I thought it was in 3D, but it is just a cool effect they have. Hope we haven't hyped it up too much for you and you still enjoy it!

@Th3solution You're trying to logically think through Marvel a movie? You must be a barrel of laughs at the cinema then! 😂

Most of the MCU must not make sense to you then, especially the last half of Endgame.

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KALofKRYPTON

@mookysam @JohnnyShoulder @WanderingBullet @RogerRoger
Into The Spiderverse is the best Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2 by a long way, easily.

I'm hopeful for the sequel

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JohnnyShoulder

@KALofKRYPTON I'm hoping to see a PS5 game in the same style!

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KALofKRYPTON

@JohnnyShoulder Not outside the realms of possibility to be an optional feature or skin in Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

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JohnnyShoulder

@KALofKRYPTON Would be cool to do it as dlc. I'm might be pushing my luck by requesting it as an expansion!

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KALofKRYPTON

@JohnnyShoulder Given the monumental critical and financial success of the first game, which I don't think anyone could have predicted, I wouldn't put anything off the table for the follow up.

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Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder Lol, yes - it’s a curse and sometimes it mentally pulls me out of a movie when I start to think about the logic of it too much.
But usually I suspend disbelief as well as the next guy. My favorite genres of cinema are fantasy and Sci-Fi after all, so most everything takes a little blind faith in what’s going on in the fictional world. ...I do love a good documentary though.

But what sets me off is when a movie’s own explanation of fantastical occurrences is inconsistent within the movie. It doesn’t necessarily have to make logical sense in the laws of nature in the real world, but if the movie doesn’t follow its own rules, then I start to question it and my enjoyment of the experience sometimes dips. I was fine with End Game and most of the MCU. Sure some of the science is bogus and ridiculous, but I think most of it was consistent. Most fantasy fictional stories just have that “eh, it’s just magic” type of attitude that you have to adopt when you’re watching things unfold.

Small things are easier to look past such as:
>Spider-Man’s webs — they don’t really follow the laws of physics do they, nor do his web shooters.

>Lightsabers — how do they cut though solid rock and trees like hot butter but they (usually) won’t cut through armor and limbs?

>In a lot of movies and games — an arrow or gun shot wound into the hero’s chest or belly just slows them down for a minute and they fully recover by the next scene (just put a dressing on it and carry on), whereas a single arrow into the back of an enemy goon and they collapse immediately and die without even a struggle.

>When characters in a Sci Fi movie travel to a new planet, how is it that they end up in the exact spot where they need to be or where the people they need to find are? I mean, I can barely find my buddy when we’re trying to meet up in a busy mall and I know where I’m going and I have google maps all programmed and such. I’m pretty sure if I landed on a random planet that I had no foreknowledge about, it would take me months to find a particular city, much less an actual building and then several more months to track down one specific person in that city. Especially if all I had to go on was “he’ll be wearing a red plom bloom. And he likes to gamble.” What if I arrive at night and he’s asleep? What if he’s on vacation and not at the casino that day? Maybe he’s grocery shopping when I arrive in town, what then — Search all the Wal-Marts?
Heck, if I even landed randomly on planet Earth from space, I don’t think I could ever find my way home!

>Etc, etc.....

So yes, I can look past these things.
But in the case of Ant-Man if the movie goes out of its way to talk about the science and technology, yet it is inconsistent when it wants to apply those rules, well then I start to scrutinize. It doesn’t ruin it for me, it just takes me out of the moment sometimes.

So yeah, I’m a ball at the cinema.

I think I just discovered why no one wants to go see movies with me.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Thank you for the in depth explanation! I have to admit that did make me chuckle. We have probably all thought that along the same lines at some point, but I suppose everyone had different limits of what they can or can't let fly.

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Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder I hope it did make you chuckle at least a little, because I do say these things with tongue firmly in cheek.

If I dissected all fictional works this aggressively then I’d never enjoy any of this stuff. But there is some grains of truth in what I said too. Fiction needs to at least be consistent. As do characters. Nothing worse than a well developed character that suddenly decides to act inconsistently with what the author or director have developed them to be.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Yep I get where you are coming from as was only being half serious any way.

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RogerRoger

Thanks everybody for the Spider-Verse endorsements! I shall watch it tomorrow and let you all know what I think of it because sure, I'm not a Marvel fanboy, but I know enough entry-level stuff to get a kick out of their main tentpole superheroes. I really loved first two Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films, and thought the third wasn't half as bad as people made out. Haven't seen either of the Amazing films, but think Tom Holland is doing a good job as the current web-slinger.

@Th3solution I'd go to the cinema with you, buddy! If only because my love of supremely-average flicks means I often have to come up with my own excus... er, answers to such questions! Although there's no possible answer to finding a code-breaker in a casino. That was just bull.

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Last night I watched Captain Marvel and it was... yeah. This was the first and only time a Marvel movie has made me feel at a disadvantage for not reading all the comics and being a fanboy. Sure, it explained everything by the end, but its roundabout, back-to-front plotting made the first half far less enjoyable than it could've been (almost as though they now expect me to go back and watch it again, which I'm not gonna do, by the way). I know we're all bored of superhero origin films at this point but, when you've got a major player in an ongoing franchise to establish, I'd reckon the most essential ingredient would be clarity. Perhaps it's the fault of having two directors. Why couldn't they give it to just one of them, and allow for a singular focus of artistic vision and intent?

Despite all that, its second half was brilliant, and all the individual components were great by themselves, despite being haphazardly mashed together. I loved Captain Marvel herself, loved her best friend, loved the younger Nic Fury (looks like Samuel L. Jackson had a ton of fun on set), loved the cat, was surprised by how much I enjoyed Jude Law's performance and especially loved the Skrulls and their storyline, and how the film made the freaky-lookin' aliens sympathetic and kinda adorable. I think that has a lot to do with Ben Mendelsohn, who has twice stolen the show in a major blockbuster now.

But I much preferred Ant-Man and The Wasp, which had more humour and ended up simply being content to show me a good time. Captain Marvel perhaps aimed higher (further, faster) but in doing so, missed the mark slightly. With two teases for Endgame now, though, it'll be interesting to see which one pans out better in the big finale.

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KALofKRYPTON

@RogerRoger You're missing nothing not having read CM comics. They've struggled to find any sort of fit for her for years - essentially because she's an incredibly boring character who's best traits are borrowed from other characters who've largely abandoned them.

I found the film a bit of meh-fest. Extremely average.

@WanderingBullet I doubt they'll do better than Raimi's Spider-Man 2 for me.

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RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON Yeah, if I were ever to rank all the Marvel movies, I doubt Captain Marvel would be in the top half. I've enjoyed others far more. Glad it wasn't just me, then! Thanks!

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Fortunately when I break down a movie, it’s typically afterward. I’m a very good movie companion otherwise. 😄

Interesting take on Capt Marvel. The movie is victim of the 20 movies that came before it and assumes a level of knowledge of the world, but yeah, the character origin story part could have been a little more clear because I remember being a little confused at first and feeling like it was kinda slow on the front half.
Did you connect the dots on the Kree and Skrulls from the other Marvel movies? Kree are notably seen first in the Guardians of the Galaxy storyline with Ronan. It enhances the story to see some of the threads that go throughout, but there are so many characters and races in so many movies sometimes it’s hard to keep track. But even without the larger interconnection, it’s still a decent film. I’ll be interested to see if you like how Capt Marvel is used in End Game.

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Ralizah

Captain Marvel was alright. Feels like someone mashed a typical Marvel production together with a sci-fi B-movie screenplay. Brie Larson was lifeless, but then she's lifeless in every movie I've seen her in, so no huge disappointment there.

I liked Into the Spiderverse more than almost any of the Marvel movies I've watched, personally. And I've watched them all. The presentation is phenomenal.

Ralizah

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JohnnyShoulder

@Ralizah Into the Spiderverse must be the first film that I can recall thst has received glowing praise all round on these hallowed pages.

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Tjuz

@Ralizah Have you seen Brie Larson in Room? She's incredible there. Instantly converted me into a fan. I haven't watched Short Term 12 or United States of Tara (yet), but I've heard she's great in those too. It's a shame a lot of people are writing her off based on her Captain Marvel performance, which I thought was fine but nothing special. Not the case with you since you said you've seen her in other things too, but a sad observation.

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