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Ralizah

Just got back from Godzilla: King of the Monsters, and it's official: I will never, ever trust the critical consensus on any film ever again. That was an experience. Which isn't to say it was perfect (the "comic relief" character who kept making fun of the monster names can go die in a ditch, please), but it was pretty much everything I could have ever expected from a Western-made Godzilla film: it was incredibly well-paced and never really had a "down moment," the effects and fights were absolutely spectacular (I love how Ghidorah is almost literally a force of nature, and, from a distance, you can see his spooky silhouette amidst a rumbling bank of storm clouds; they might have overdone Mothra's radiance a tad, but she was quite elegant and scene-stealing the few times she did show up), the human story perfectly supplemented the monster side of things without ever drawing attention away from it, and a LOT of personality was added to the monsters themselves. The score was great, too, especially near the end when they incorporated a lot of remixed but imminently recognizable classic Godzilla tunes.

Not as good as the best Japanese films, if only because the creature is uniquely Japanese and is much more meaningful in that context, whether it be the incarnation of American atomic death in the original, the representation of Japan's sins during WW2 in All-Out Monsters Attack, or a constantly looming threat that exposes the incompetence of Japan's government during crisis situations in Shin Godzilla, but it's absolutely tops when it comes to the more Creature-Featurey installments. This beats the pants off of something like Destroy All Monsters; just sayin'.

The human characters... are OK. Certainly more interesting than the non-entities in the 2014 film. Vera Farmiga's character is a bit much, but she's a stellar actress and does the best she can with what she was given. I feel like Ken Watanabe's character needed more... exploration to make his pivotal scene in the film really connect. In general, I do agree that more could have been done on the human side of things. But it wasn't nearly the train wreck it was made out to be by critics, and, more importantly, it integrated perfectly with the larger plot.

I really, really dig the stark, apocalyptic vibe of the final hour or so of the film. It was really well-done, and they did a great job selling Ghidorah as a terrifying threat.

Definitely my favorite non-documentary film of the year. It's not off to a super start in the States, but it seems to be performing well overseas. Hopefully it does well enough to justify continuing the development of this big-budget kaiju franchise after Kong vs. Godzilla next year.

Am I the only one who thinks they're totally foreshadowing Mecha-King Ghidorah in the after-credits scene?

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Jaz007

I saw Aladdin yesterday. It was fantastic. It was a faithful renake of the original, and I don’t understand why people complain about how it is as shot for shot the original movie in a lot of ways. It’s supposed to be that. It’s a remake not a reboot. It’s a good thing.
They did make enough changes to fit live action. They say they handled Aladdin being a thief and a rogue was excellently done. The stealing and parkour were really cool. They also changed enough to allow for Will Smith’s Genie to shine while still being faithful.
Speaking of which, Will Smith is a perfect live action genie. He did it so well and exceeded expectations. He was hilarious and made it his own role.
The parade scene in particular was fantastic and was a complete and total joy to watch.
The new song, “Speechless” I think it’s called wasn’t the best. It felt a bit heavy handed and kinda like they’re trying to make Let it Go 2.0. They definitely changed Let it Go. A small complaint though.
Overall it was a amazing adaption and I highly recommend it

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KALofKRYPTON

@Ralizah Cool! Hopefully I get to see it while it's still in rotation.

@Jaz007 Are there any 'trademark' Guy Ritchie moments/quick cut, quick fire 'this is the plan' explanation scenes?

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Th3solution

@Ralizah Is the movie worthwhile for someone who hasn’t followed the lore and genre of the Godzilla movies? I think I’ve seen one of them a few years ago, and I don’t even know what it was called.

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@Jaz007 Colour me surprised!!

@Th3solution It's a direct sequel to the American 2014 film, so beyond that it should be alright... actually, even without seeing that I'm assuming it'll be alright

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Ralizah

@Th3solution There are a few recurring characters from the 2014 film, but this film explains anything you might need to know to enjoy it.

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Tasuki

@Th3solution @KALofKRYPTON It's a direct sequel to Godzilla (2014) as well as Kong: Skull Island. And will lead up to next year's release of Godzilla Vs King Kong.

Together they are the Monsterverse basically their take on a MCU.

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Th3solution

@Tasuki oh, ok. I think I heard good things about Skull Island. Never saw it though. I think the 2014 Godzilla was the one I saw, but remember nothing about it.

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KALofKRYPTON

@Tasuki I do hate the notion that they're going to have to contrive a way for King Kong to stand a chance against Godzilla 😂

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jacobia

@KALofKRYPTON I think it was stated in Kong: Skull Island that he was still growing. That would certainly suffice for Kong to eventually be on par with Godzilla.

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KALofKRYPTON

@jacobia If Godzilla can still beat Ghidorah (which I'm assuming he does in the latest film, and that Ghidorah isn't nerfed), then really big ape shouldn't be a problem 😂

Even if Kong ends up the same same size as Godzilla, a quick nuclear-fire snog should sort him out! 😂😂

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jacobia

@KAKofKRYPTON Yeah man, that nuclear-fire snog...get’s em every time!🤣....
But, seriously (as far as giant monsters-in-a-movie goes!), with Kong being a primate with a bigger brain than Godzilla, he might be smarter, plus he’s got longer arms, bigger hands (and you know what they say about primates with bigger hands), upper torso strength, moves around quicker and is much more agile than Godzilla 🤷🏻‍♂️

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WanderingBullet

If Kong's agile enough not to get hit by Godzilla's energy blasts he might stand a chance.lol

Or he could try and do this.
https://fat.gfycat.com/SimilarUnitedAgama.mp4

That fight scene is arguably one of the best monster fight scenes of all time, imo.

Also, anyone going to watch Dark Phoenix?

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KALofKRYPTON

@jacobia @Th3solution @WanderingBullet It'll certainly be interesting...

I will watch Dark Phoenix, when I don't have to pay for it. I paid for Apocalypse... they owe me!

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Ralizah

also:

https://www.cbr.com/mark-hamill-last-jedi-grievances/

Hamill was also unhappy with his reunion with C-3PO, in which Skywalker at first didn't even acknowledge his former droid sidekick.

"They had me walking by 3PO, not even acknowledging him," said Hamill. "I said: 'I can’t do that!' He (The Last Jedi’s director, Rian Johnson) said, 'Okay, go over and do whatever.' So I went over, and I did whatever. They say it in the script: 'Forget the past, kill it if you have to,' and they’re doing a pretty good job!"

Not to keep beating this drum, but... Rian Johnson was a mistake, despite his amazing work in Breaking Bad (although, come to think of it, the episodes he directed involve burning character relationships to the ground and/or subverting audience expectations, lol)

@KALofKRYPTON They did a good job with Ghidorah. Calling it an apocalyptic take on the creature would be underselling it. He is TERRIFYING in KotM.

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KALofKRYPTON

@Ralizah I saw the Ackbar thing. Shame. But really just more evidence of Jihnson's utter disregard for Star Wars and just not being a good storyteller.

Sweet news about KotM!

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RogerRoger

@Ralizah Wow. That clip is just... wow.

I go back and forth about some of the controversial elements of The Last Jedi, but the way they killed Admiral Ackbar was utterly inexcusable. Hearing that's what Rian Johnson did to the actor on the last day of shooting makes me genuinely upset. That's inhuman.

The Rise of Skywalker has its work cut out to salvage this trilogy's reputation.

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Ralizah

@KALofKRYPTON @RogerRoger This is what happens when you give a major, beloved property to a guy who has no sense of respect for it, the people involved with it, its history, etc. The thing people like Rian Johnson don't appreciate is that historic properties like this deeply matter to both fans and the people involved. It's an important part of their lives.

There's a place for directors like Rian Johnson. But it was a massive mistake to allow him anywhere near Star Wars.

I still maintain that TLJ is a better film than TFA, but, the more I learn about its legacy, the less I like it.

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