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FullbringIchigo

@JohnnyShoulder if you want to talk about the remake head over to the forums and the official Final Fantasy thread, it's normally pretty civil over there

but yeah i get you it's got pretty bad over there

did you ever see a hurst go by and think that one day you're going die, they will stick you in a little box and cover you over with dirt and rocks

JohnnyShoulder

@FullbringIchigo Yeah I get ya, it's just annoying that some people feel they have to attack people for something that was that bad.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

FullbringIchigo

@JohnnyShoulder that's the problem with the internet, people are safe behind their screens at home so they will say what they want, without filter because there is no repercussion for their actions

in the real world if some people said half of what they did online they would get a fist to the face

did you ever see a hurst go by and think that one day you're going die, they will stick you in a little box and cover you over with dirt and rocks

FullbringIchigo

@kyleforrester87 hey don't paint us all with the same brush, it's only a small minority but the sad thing is social media has given them the loudest voice, just like with most other fandoms such as the Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who ones right now

personally i believe all social media should be banned until the human race can actually be social to one another

did you ever see a hurst go by and think that one day you're going die, they will stick you in a little box and cover you over with dirt and rocks

Kidfried

Honestly, the way people reply in the comment sections, that's the reason I feel unsafe to even share my gender identity.

In the comments someone posted claiming trans people have a "miswiring" in their brain. And apparently that's allowed on this site... Depressing.

Kidfried

kyleforrester87

@Kidfried yeah I called you bro yesterday then realised you might be a sis based on your avatar. Then realised you might be neither or both. I just know you humiliated me with a major dis and I’m gunna come back on you hard when you least expect it.

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Th3solution

@kyleforrester87 Standard jargon lately is “bro” or “dude” is actually gender neutral. Go figure.
Anyways, I think you’re safe.
But I demand you refer to me as “Your Highness” or “Your Eminence”. I will also accept “Master” and “The Precious”. Everything else offends me.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

RogerRoger

@Kidfried That's why, unless I know for certain, I'll always refer to others online as "they" or in other gender-neutral terms... and it's also why I barely post in comment sections on the front page any longer. As soon as I saw both stories go up today (the cross-dressing one and the breast size one) I signed out and walked away. I get why PushSquare does it, they need clicks and this still remains a more civil place than most, but it's just become too dangerous, especially for those of us who are prepared to stand up and speak from experience.

Big respect for trying to engage as much as you have, but I'm sorry to hear it went... well, went exactly where I feared it would. If it helps, I'd still think you're awesome even if you identified as a desk lamp.

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

Th3solution

@Kidfried I was busy all day at work and dipped my toe in the pool of the comment sections of the articles today and recoiled as if shocked by freezing water.
Of course when the three lead articles are about cross dressing, Leisure Suit Larry, and breast size and the other article is entitled “PS5 is hard to get excited about” with a picture of Bayonetta as the header image... we’ll, it was a recipe for disaster from the beginning. 😅

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Kidfried

@RogerRoger I think Push Square can write about these things. They probably even feel like they must, but with reporting on such topics also comes a responsibility with regards to moderation.

Often you'll see the flame war instilling and troll comments remain untouched on the site. I mean, if it's not ok to comment about politics, then maybe you also shouldn't allow comments on your site that accuse others of racism, or contain sentences like "masculinity is toxic", "black people just have big lips" or "being trans is a miswiring of your brain". You're going to get angry replies and people who make a fool of themselves replying to it, if you're allowing these things.

The fact that so many of this site's regular visitors have been addressing lately how toxic the site's comments can become, even avoiding them, is I think a sign that it should be addressed in a way.

I think it's what the site needs anyway if it wants to continue to grow. People can get the news anywhere, but they'll stay at a place where they feel is a community they can join.

But that's just my two cents.

@kyleforrester87 Nah, I just love Aoi from Danganronpa, that's all. Though if they're ever remaking Danganronpa, you'll probably find an article about how they're toning down Aoi's breasts. :')

Also, Kyle vs Kidfried. The beef is real, so let's take it to Twitter like "real men".

@RogerRoger I have no insecurities at all regarding my sex, gender or anything, but it's become something like my real name, skin tone, sexual preference, the place I live in, etc, that I don't really share online. I found out people can be creeps online.

Kidfried

JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution wrote:

@kyleforrester87 Standard jargon lately is “bro” or “dude” is actually gender neutral. Go figure.
Anyways, I think you’re safe.
But I demand you refer to me as “Your Highness” or “Your Eminence”. I will also accept “Master” and “The Precious”. Everything else offends me.

@Th3solution I call some of the younger girls at work 'bruv' and they don't mind. It started off as a silly joke and just kinda stuck.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

KALofKRYPTON

Personally - if someone has a preferred pronoun that isn't dumb (see: ze, zir) and they'd ask that it be used, I don't mind.

I do however refuse to accept or be bothered by anyone taking offence at being 'misgendered' accidentally or out of ignorance.

Regarding the clickbait articles, as others have pointed out - it increases traffic and helps keep the servers running. And it's nothing that isn't being picked up on other sites.

The comments section did degenerate, but at least it took 12 or so comments before anyone mentioned Hitler/Nazis!

The community here is the forums - they do feel somewhat removed from the commentators on articles for the most part.

In other news - I do not need to have a corneal graft (yet) and am going to try some scleral (massive!) contact lenses. Soon be seeing in stereo again!

PSN: KALofKRYPTON (so you can see how often I don't play anything!)

Twitter: @KALofKRYPTON (at your own risk, I don't care if you're offended)

"Fate: Protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise." - Cmdr William T. Riker

FullbringIchigo

@Kidfried @kyleforrester87 @RogerRoger i think part of the problem is people give certain terms a gender identity even when they don't really have one take the word Actor the meaning of that is "a person who acts out a role" and thus covers anybody who acts regardless of gender but now a days if you say it people automatically put a male identity on it same as the word Man in fact, Man is a short form of Human which itself is a romanization of Homosapian, it carries no gender ID at all but people give it one and to be honest until we stop either sorting people into groups or putting ourselves into groups we will never have any real equality, we are not man, we are not woman, we are not transexual, we are not straight, we are not LGBT, we are not black, we are not white or any other group that separates us, the only thing we ALL are is HUMAN

did you ever see a hurst go by and think that one day you're going die, they will stick you in a little box and cover you over with dirt and rocks

KALofKRYPTON

@FullbringIchigo
That's a nice sentiment - but whether it's from a positions of institutionalised power, or just the person on the street, we as humans just can't help but be tribal.
Categorisation, division and subdivision, segregation and grouping are an inevitable consequence of humanity.

PSN: KALofKRYPTON (so you can see how often I don't play anything!)

Twitter: @KALofKRYPTON (at your own risk, I don't care if you're offended)

"Fate: Protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise." - Cmdr William T. Riker

Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, as I see it, the usage of “bro” and “dude” in today’s phraseology is actually more as an expletive rather than a pronoun or title referring to the actual person you’re speaking to. “Bro, did you see that video on YouTube?!” Can be said to anyone, irrespective of gender of the person. Such is the lexicon of the modern United States. I have no idea if it has to do with legitimate gender neutrality and is progressive in nature or if its just plain laziness. But I don’t think it’s acceptable yet to say, “Sis” or “Chica”, “Girl”, “Girlfriend”, “Lady”, etc when addressing a group of men at the sports bar, unless one is prepared to brawl. However, I hear a group of girls say “Bro” and “Dude” to each other all the time.

Some of it is highly regional too, although with the internet it’s all starting to meld together. I have to catch myself though when I’m tempted to address someone in my real life by “mate” as is frequently done here. I love that British term but it just isn’t used in the U.S. in the same way. It sometimes infers a sexual relationship even, so we have to be careful.
Another example is “sir” and “ma’am” which you may see me use on here from time to time and is completely normal to hear when addressing people where I live. However I expect those terms will soon drop out of the established parlance because of the way society is evolving.

Of course I jest about wanting to be called “Your Highness” but it is interesting to see how language changes and is not only regional, but also individual in its connotations and acceptability.

Oh gosh, did I actually just ramble on about language for that long? Sorry about that. 😅

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

FullbringIchigo

@KALofKRYPTON true as a species we tend to try to group together, it's a tribal survival instinct and it's also why we can be afraid of others because they are different as long ago anything different was a potential threat but i like to think that we have the intelligence to eventually overcome those instincts and break down those barriers

it probably wont happen in my lifetime nor that of the next generation but i do think that one day it will

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