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themcnoisy

@FullbringIchigo I wish all talk about censorship was censored. It brings crazy people with even crazier self righteousness. Just think about what is being censored and who is objecting. You can't possibly have a reasonable discussion.

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FullbringIchigo

@themcnoisy oh i agree what...[THIS POST HAS BEEN CENSORED BECAUSE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT CENSORSHIP AND ALL TALK OF CENSORSHIP IS CENSORED]

do you want control of the games you buy, do you want to be able to play them when you want to with out needing to pay a monthly subscription & also pay the cost of the game

do you NOT want a faceless company to take your games away at a moments notice if so then #BoycottStadia

BAMozzy

I can see some virtue in buying a Pro now. Not everyone will upgrade to Pro on Day 1 and, if its still 17months away, you can benefit from 17 months of the best Playstation experience possible - visually and in game performance tests too. In the majority of games, they not only look better (even on a 1080p TV), the run better, load quicker etc too. At the very least, all the games can benefit a bit from the 'boost' mode. If you have a 4k TV, the advantages are even more obvious. In some games, you can get the 'base' PS4 visuals but get double the Frame rate instead.

Trade in value will be better for a Pro than a PS4/Slim - assuming you do trade in. If not, you still have the 'best' PS4 on the market, the one that does 'gaming' better than any other PS4. If you do have a 2nd TV, regardless of whether its only HD or not, you get the best PS4 experience - regardless of what PS5 offers.

I don't trade so perhaps that's playing into my bias. I am not thinking about scrapping/trading in my PS4 Pro on Day1 just because a PS5 hits the market and my PS4 Pro will be kept regardless. It will be in my Bedroom on my 2nd TV, replacing my PS3 (which hasn't been turn on in years) when I do upgrade. In the mean time, I have the best PS4 to get the best visual and frame rate performance in ALL games, inc the multitude of games already owned let alone all those new games to come. Depends on how much this ageing generation declines, with less than full HD and locked frame rates, at the very least a Pro will ensure I don't have to put up with dynamic scaling below 1080p and probably get the smoother game-play too.

With the PS5 relatively close, although still a LONG way off in the world of tech and gaming, there are some variables that may make the decision to buy a Pro less compelling. If you have a fully working PS4 already, don't yet have a 4k TV, happy to make do with what you have because you can't miss out on something if you don't know exactly what that 'something' feels like and someone who will definitely buy a PS5 on Launch day and certainly trading in your PS4 to offset the cost, then maybe its not necessarily worth spending out that much more for the short term benefits (as in the benefits you get from the Pro between now and Day1 PS5 launch). If, on the other hand, you have to buy a 'new' PS4 now, the choice to spend a little bit more (relatively) for something that is literally 2 PS4 GPU's bolted together, an avid gamer where performance and load times matter, find the less than 1080p quality too soft (certainly is on a 4k screen), someone who is going to get hundreds, even thousands of hours in the next 17/18mths until the PS5 releases, potentially going to keep hold of your PS4 just in case or have a 2nd TV to connect it too, It makes more sense to buy a Pro - oh and if you need an Optical Audio out too. I don't currently know what the price differential is but at launch, the difference new was £100 - £100 to improve all your games, some by a small amount, others by a larger amount. H:ZD and GoW looked absolutely incredible in 4k HDR as does GTSport too by all accounts even if its just CB 1800p and upscaled to 4k before sending to TV. Some of the Vistas in H:ZD in 4k HDR are breathtaking!! I know they can be HDR on a regular PS4, but very few HD HDR TV's exist and on a 4k HDR TV, there is a 'softer' look - due to the upscaling...

As I said, I maybe bias but I want to play games at the highest level within certain parameters - ie Console only and 4k HDR content to match the quality of my display. If you think games look great now at 1080p SDR on your HD TV, they look softer on a 4k TV - thanks to upscaling by 400% to fit the screen (on other words, only a quarter of the picture is rendered), and HDR makes the SDR look flat by comparison - at least on a 'proper' HDR TV that has a large colour volume and superb contrast with excellent and bright Highlights - at the very least a decent tone mapping algorithm.I can't say if I will upgrade to the Ps5 on day 1 as I will also be looking at Xbox too, trying to decide which to buy first (if I can't get both immediately) so if I have to make do with my Pro (or X) for a few months after the next gen release, I have the 'best' console(s) to do so...

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FullbringIchigo

@JohnnyShoulder if you want to talk about the remake head over to the forums and the official Final Fantasy thread, it's normally pretty civil over there

but yeah i get you it's got pretty bad over there

do you want control of the games you buy, do you want to be able to play them when you want to with out needing to pay a monthly subscription & also pay the cost of the game

do you NOT want a faceless company to take your games away at a moments notice if so then #BoycottStadia

JohnnyShoulder

@FullbringIchigo Yeah I get ya, it's just annoying that some people feel they have to attack people for something that was that bad.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

FullbringIchigo

@JohnnyShoulder that's the problem with the internet, people are safe behind their screens at home so they will say what they want, without filter because there is no repercussion for their actions

in the real world if some people said half of what they did online they would get a fist to the face

do you want control of the games you buy, do you want to be able to play them when you want to with out needing to pay a monthly subscription & also pay the cost of the game

do you NOT want a faceless company to take your games away at a moments notice if so then #BoycottStadia

FullbringIchigo

@kyleforrester87 hey don't paint us all with the same brush, it's only a small minority but the sad thing is social media has given them the loudest voice, just like with most other fandoms such as the Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who ones right now

personally i believe all social media should be banned until the human race can actually be social to one another

do you want control of the games you buy, do you want to be able to play them when you want to with out needing to pay a monthly subscription & also pay the cost of the game

do you NOT want a faceless company to take your games away at a moments notice if so then #BoycottStadia

Kidfried

Honestly, the way people reply in the comment sections, that's the reason I feel unsafe to even share my gender identity.

In the comments someone posted claiming trans people have a "miswiring" in their brain. And apparently that's allowed on this site... Depressing.

Kidfried

kyleforrester87

@Kidfried yeah I called you bro yesterday then realised you might be a sis based on your avatar. Then realised you might be neither or both. I just know you humiliated me with a major dis and I’m gunna come back on you hard when you least expect it.

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kyleforrester87

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Th3solution

@kyleforrester87 Standard jargon lately is “bro” or “dude” is actually gender neutral. Go figure.
Anyways, I think you’re safe.
But I demand you refer to me as “Your Highness” or “Your Eminence”. I will also accept “Master” and “The Precious”. Everything else offends me.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

RogerRoger

@Kidfried That's why, unless I know for certain, I'll always refer to others online as "they" or in other gender-neutral terms... and it's also why I barely post in comment sections on the front page any longer. As soon as I saw both stories go up today (the cross-dressing one and the breast size one) I signed out and walked away. I get why PushSquare does it, they need clicks and this still remains a more civil place than most, but it's just become too dangerous, especially for those of us who are prepared to stand up and speak from experience.

Big respect for trying to engage as much as you have, but I'm sorry to hear it went... well, went exactly where I feared it would. If it helps, I'd still think you're awesome even if you identified as a desk lamp.

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Th3solution

@Kidfried I was busy all day at work and dipped my toe in the pool of the comment sections of the articles today and recoiled as if shocked by freezing water.
Of course when the three lead articles are about cross dressing, Leisure Suit Larry, and breast size and the other article is entitled “PS5 is hard to get excited about” with a picture of Bayonetta as the header image... we’ll, it was a recipe for disaster from the beginning. 😅

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Kidfried

@RogerRoger I think Push Square can write about these things. They probably even feel like they must, but with reporting on such topics also comes a responsibility with regards to moderation.

Often you'll see the flame war instilling and troll comments remain untouched on the site. I mean, if it's not ok to comment about politics, then maybe you also shouldn't allow comments on your site that accuse others of racism, or contain sentences like "masculinity is toxic", "black people just have big lips" or "being trans is a miswiring of your brain". You're going to get angry replies and people who make a fool of themselves replying to it, if you're allowing these things.

The fact that so many of this site's regular visitors have been addressing lately how toxic the site's comments can become, even avoiding them, is I think a sign that it should be addressed in a way.

I think it's what the site needs anyway if it wants to continue to grow. People can get the news anywhere, but they'll stay at a place where they feel is a community they can join.

But that's just my two cents.

@kyleforrester87 Nah, I just love Aoi from Danganronpa, that's all. Though if they're ever remaking Danganronpa, you'll probably find an article about how they're toning down Aoi's breasts. :')

Also, Kyle vs Kidfried. The beef is real, so let's take it to Twitter like "real men".

@RogerRoger I have no insecurities at all regarding my sex, gender or anything, but it's become something like my real name, skin tone, sexual preference, the place I live in, etc, that I don't really share online. I found out people can be creeps online.

Kidfried

JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution wrote:

@kyleforrester87 Standard jargon lately is “bro” or “dude” is actually gender neutral. Go figure.
Anyways, I think you’re safe.
But I demand you refer to me as “Your Highness” or “Your Eminence”. I will also accept “Master” and “The Precious”. Everything else offends me.

@Th3solution I call some of the younger girls at work 'bruv' and they don't mind. It started off as a silly joke and just kinda stuck.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

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KALofKRYPTON

Personally - if someone has a preferred pronoun that isn't dumb (see: ze, zir) and they'd ask that it be used, I don't mind.

I do however refuse to accept or be bothered by anyone taking offence at being 'misgendered' accidentally or out of ignorance.

Regarding the clickbait articles, as others have pointed out - it increases traffic and helps keep the servers running. And it's nothing that isn't being picked up on other sites.

The comments section did degenerate, but at least it took 12 or so comments before anyone mentioned Hitler/Nazis!

The community here is the forums - they do feel somewhat removed from the commentators on articles for the most part.

In other news - I do not need to have a corneal graft (yet) and am going to try some scleral (massive!) contact lenses. Soon be seeing in stereo again!

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FullbringIchigo

@Kidfried @kyleforrester87 @RogerRoger i think part of the problem is people give certain terms a gender identity even when they don't really have one take the word Actor the meaning of that is "a person who acts out a role" and thus covers anybody who acts regardless of gender but now a days if you say it people automatically put a male identity on it same as the word Man in fact, Man is a short form of Human which itself is a romanization of Homosapian, it carries no gender ID at all but people give it one and to be honest until we stop either sorting people into groups or putting ourselves into groups we will never have any real equality, we are not man, we are not woman, we are not transexual, we are not straight, we are not LGBT, we are not black, we are not white or any other group that separates us, the only thing we ALL are is HUMAN

do you want control of the games you buy, do you want to be able to play them when you want to with out needing to pay a monthly subscription & also pay the cost of the game

do you NOT want a faceless company to take your games away at a moments notice if so then #BoycottStadia

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