Topic: The Chit Chat Thread

Just seen another Push Square article by @get2sammyb on Jim Sterling’s latest Jimquisition. That is all.

@Rudy_Manchego Did he shout at us?

@get2sammyb Something about you being corporate lackeys.

Just kidding just used an article on Ubisoft releasing less games to prove a point.

@Rudy_Manchego Haha, phew! I thought we'd incurred the wrath of Sterling for a second there. Was preparing to enter the Push Square Protective Bunker!

@get2sammyb Colin Moriarty seems to like the site a lot. He’s always referencing Push Square in his weekly news round up.
Great to see the site expanding its reach .

@Fight_Teza_Fight Haha, that’s cool. Thanks Colin. 🙏

In Red Dead 2 I was hunting, but it's getting late. Daytime is way too short in this game, so my hunting always get cut short. The fact that my hunting session gets cut short after such a short while isn't realistic, nor is it fun, but it apparently serves some other balancing purpose.

I am off home and see a train riding by. I think to myself "Gee, I'm going to try and rob it." I jump on the train (very cool), and start to rob it. I make two sneak kills inside, but the train stops regardless and the people inside are searching for me. Within seconds the law arrives and I get a big bounty and don't have time to rob the actual train.

• Is this fun? No, a fun train robbery turns lame.
• Is this realistic? No, I'm in the middle of nowhere there shouldn't be lawman.
• Does it feel satisying? No, I leave, escaping the law, without my loot, while I was such a stealthy boy.

It just makes me want to throw the game out of the window sometimes.

@Kidfried yeah I'm the same way. I held up a shop and the door was closed and somehow people outside were witnessing it. Like I guess they might have seen if they had noses pressed up against the glass but they were walking past 100 feet away.

It was the same in GTA5 though. You'd be at the top of the mountain and shoot someone in the head with a sniper rifle. 30 seconds later a convoy of police cars would be driving up 80 degree rock face to arrest your butt.

@kyleforrester87 This one? https://kotaku.com/the-fun-and-frustration-of-that-doctor-rob...

But yea, GTAV was really bad about that too. It's so strange that they're making games about outlaws and gangsters, but the way they design games actually kind of force you to adhere to the rules somewhat.

@Kidfried No actually, I just barged in with a shotgun during that mission and slaughtered everyone really quickly.

But yeah, it's almost like they want you to know your bad actions will have consequences but it just comes across as being not a lot of fun.

@Kidfried @kyleforrester87 I’ve been trying to play the game as law-abiding as possible to build my honor (haven’t held up any store owners), so I don’t run into it as often, but I’ve been frustrated also by how quickly the law jumps on me when I’m naughty. I guess in Rockstar’s alternate world they have cellphones and 911 in 1899.
I found it strange how when I was robbing the train during a story mission and beating the snot out of people that my honor didn’t budge but when I pressed the button for “rob” and they handed me the measly 52 cents from their pocket that it made my honor drop. Not sure what the game is trying to teach me, but whatever.

On a separate note, @Kidfried how’s your numb hand doing? I might have missed your update on it.

@Kidfried @kyleforrester87 I wouldn't be the least surprised if they program it that way to please people and rating boards who feel that those actions would corrupt kids. Basic let's make it a joke if you try to be bad and make it so you don't want to play those games that way.

@Th3solution So sweet to think of me. I'm a bit better now, but Thursday I have a doctor's appointment to see if he can help.

@Tasuki @Th3solution It feels a bit like the game forces you to play the game in a certain way. In most games I don't have trouble with that at all, but with a sandbox/open world game like this, that shouldn't happen.

Whatever the reason for this is, I don't know. I do know that while playing I often long to just boot up Ni No Kuni 2 instead.

@Kidfried Glad your hand is a little better. Good luck at the doctors!

@Kidfried @Tasuki I don’t think it’s the rating boards, because the robberies and general crimes you can commit in the game don’t really have anything to do with the M rating. Plenty of T rated games let you murder and rob.

Anyone know of a deal on PS+ in North America? I know there was just one for Black Friday but I had to get other things and don't get paid untill this weekend. Also didn't realize my + ran out today I though I still had one more month on it. I tried googling it but all I find is where to buy it but that's at normal prices currently.

@Kidfried Yeah, we can’t have your hand disabled for long because someone has to squash all the little bugs around here 😄
So here’s hoping for a quick and easy recovery and some good news on Thursday!

@Tasuki Ah man! You just missed it. I re-upped my plus for 12 more months for $40 through the PS Store over last week’s sales. I’m probably good through to PS5 now! Amazon usually offers discount PS Plus codes every few months, but it will probably be a while now. But who knows, maybe another discount closer to Christmas will pop up.

@Th3solution Yeah, as I said I used my money for other gifts for others thinking I could wait till next month but nope I was wrong it expired today. I have been looking for a sale today but apparently it's back up to full price now and I really don't want to spend the $60 for something that was just on sale a few days ago.

@Tasuki Sorry, man. But good on ya for thinking of others first. 👍🏼 It is the season of giving, after all. If it’s any consolation, its been several years since Sony gave away anything worthwhile for December’s free games. We should know tomorrow, I guess. But I know you like your online multiplayer, so not having that is gonna sting.

@Th3solution No worries, I think I might at least just buy a month and then see if another sale pops up before the end of the year.