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Jaz007

@FullbringIchigo Honestly, I feel like it got cancelled when Desmond died. It was a half-way cancel and I’m convinced it’ll never work again if they don’t retcon him. I mean, it’s like permanent filler instead now of canceling it, which is worse. The cliffhanger will never be answered.

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Tasuki

I honestly never liked nor understood the modern day segments in the AC series. I always felt like they broke up the flow of the games. I could understand doing a spin-off series where you play in the modern era but they just felt shoehorned in the AC series.

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Th3solution

@KratosMD Hmm ... 🤔 So, look for an Assassin’s Creed - Watch Dogs crossover game soon. It’s be called Creed Dogs or something.
In it you’ll play as Aiden Pearce who gets ahold of an animus and finds out that he is a descendant of Ubisofts founders, the Guillemot family, and he goes back to play his ancestor memories and stops Ubisoft from creating the Assassins Creed franchise and instead makes new Prince of Persia games along with 3 Far Cry games per year, thereby creating a time-loop paradox whereby the Universe ceases to exist and all life is destroyed. Either because of a tear in the space-time continuum or because the Universe can’t handle 15 Far Cry games.

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Jaz007

@Tasuki It made sense early on, especially in the first game and was actually pretty interesting. Then they realized how much money the games made and started making a lot of them - completely outpacing any planning for the story they had. I'm not even sure it was meant to last for that many games, so they just didn't know what to do, and it became awful filler.

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Gremio108

@Th3solution What you've described there still makes more sense than Creed's modern-day narrative. Pre-ordered

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FullbringIchigo

so i was on the official Assassin's Creed site and i noticed a bit that says "Franchise History" so i go on it and it only shows Assassin's Creed Origins
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was the series rebooted or something, what happened to all the other games?

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PunkRx_Lockly

It was soft-booted with Origins, but the series certainly goes back quite a few games. It could be they wanted Origins to act as a clean slate and as the very beginning of something new, similar to the recent Tomb Raider trilogy, but then why would they include ACIII Remastered with the Ultimate Edition of Odyssey??

In any case, AC is pretty much unrecognizable from its core roots now. I just got finished playing the very end of the Atlantis DLC, and I can tell you it is laughable how much things have changed, lol. We went from gathering information and returning to a bureau to plan an assassination on a political figure to fighting Greek gods, lol. Let that sink in.

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Th3solution

@PunkRx_Lockly Yeah, I haven’t played Origins and Odyssey yet, but it does sound like its really a different narrative core and gameplay. In a way I can respect that they tried to push the series forward rather than recycle the same game over and over, but in the process of reinventing the franchise they seem to have lost some of what it represented. It was always historical and factual characters and events mixed with fantasy and fiction, but it was heavy on the historical context. Now it sounds like it’s evolving into more fantasy based narrative.
Maybe they will run with the fantastical and outrageous with Gods and Monsters and then bring AC back to the roots of a more believable historical fiction. There are still so many historical settings and characters that would be fun to have in an AC game.

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FullbringIchigo

@Th3solution i know they said the "Gods" were actually members of the Isu aka the first race, it's still pretty dumb if you ask me BUT i guess it does kind of fit with the series mythology but what annoys me if they brought in this whole thing about Juno and the Sage and then suddenly dropped it for the Eagle Bearer stuff

they can work it back in of course IF it's done right but this is Ubisoft so i'm not holding my breath

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PunkRx_Lockly

@Th3solution That pretty much encapsulates the current trajectory of the series right now. They've elected to go the pseudo-supernatural route (which is really just hyper-advanced science), and it's taken away from many of the core aspects of the series that first made it all intriguing (social stealth and advanced parkour being the two biggest losses, but there's a lot more they did away with). While initially the advanced Isu sciences were always somewhat present in the background, they were not the focal point of the series as it is with Odyssey, where you literally start out with an Isu weapon.

Maybe one day they will return to a more grounded and natural stealth-based experience, but for right now I'm actually a little burnt out on the whole Isu stint they're on. I liked things better before, honestly. Unity is a perfect example of an AC game ALMOST done right.

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Th3solution

@PunkRx_Lockly Woah, another Unity fan @Jaz007 ! 😄 I knew there were at least two of you all out there.
It’s okay. My unpopular Assassin Creed opinion is that Black Flag was boring and the worst of the early games.

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PunkRx_Lockly

@Th3solution Shocking, right? A lot of people really hate it, but it had so much going for it amidst all the technical problems. Truly an underrated title. And I still don't get why so many people hated Arno ! He wasn't bad I thought... 😞

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FullbringIchigo

@Th3solution @PunkRx_Lockly i love Unity and i really enjoyed Syndicate too plus that game at least did the whole Character choice thing and didn't break the lore in order to do it

sadly though i don't think Ubisoft will change it back because they would get destroyed by the critics for it, i think it's sad that in this day and age companies don't look at sales numbers or fan response anymore and instead rely on metacritic sites to gauge what they should do with their games, all they try to do is please critics which leads to games like AC losing it's identity and getting lost in the great grey blob of generic open world games because "that's whats trending right now"

game critics are probably the 2nd most useless job in existence right after wine critics, and the 3rd are film critics

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KratosMD

It wouldn't surprise me if Ubisoft actually did go back to creating AC games with the classic formula. They would however need to make those games within a spin-off series. So they'd have to do what they did with the 2.5D Chronicles games and put the games under an extended title like e.g. "Assassin's Creed Classic" in order to differentiate between the mainline games and these ones.

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Kidfried

@FullbringIchigo They looked at sales instead of critics.

That's why they switched from Syndicate, that was the first AC to sell slower, to Origins, which is more like single player games that sell better (Witcher, etc).

Kidfried

Kidfried

@Kidfried I mean, it's pretty clear from Ubisoft's strategy, how much they put money first. And to achieve that they try to listen to fans, their consumers.

That doesn't nessecarily result in good games of course, but it is why Ubisoft is doing so good commercially.

Also, I dont think Assassin's Creed is ever going back. But it is a series that changes. Compare 1 with 2, with Black Flag, with Unity, with Origins. So, I'd rather think that, as soon as Ubisoft notices fans don't like this direction, they would switch to something else entirely again.

Gong back doesn't make sense. AC1 is and always was a bad game, AC2 is not impressive anymore compared to Horizon or whatever open world game nowadays.

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Kidfried

JohnnyShoulder

@Kidfried Your tagging yourself?! 😂

But I agree, it makes no sense for Ubi to go back to the old style of games now just to appease the relatively few that want them back.

Origins was the refresh the series needed, before then they were getting a bit stale.

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FullbringIchigo

@Kidfried oh don't get me wrong the series was getting stale and it did need a refresh but even if the sales for Syndicate were lower than the others it still sold well but when you start to take notice of the critics and critic sites over the actual fans of the franchise it just causes issues

now i have said many times before the latest few AC games are damn good RPG's and lots of fun BUT they are BAD Assassin'S Creed games even if you look on sites like Metacritic AC2 is still rated higher than the others and Black Flag is about the same as Origins and Odyssey so all those changes, cahsing games like Witcher 3 and they still only get scores on par with the older games

the thing is though how many films have you seen or games have you played that were critically panned but were actually really good but because critics didn't like them they never got sequels

take for example i'm a Star Trek fan and if critic scores were to be believed Discovery is the best series the franchise has ever had and yet if you look at the actual fan response it's pretty much fallen flat on it's face (personally i'm not too taken with it but i see potential) and at the end of the day it's the fans that keeps something going, not the critics and not the reviewers so it's the fans they should be listening to not some number on a website

"I like Star Wars. It was young King Arthur growing up, slaying the evil emperor finally. There's nothing wrong with that kind of entertainment - everything doesn't have to create a philosophy for you - for your whole life. You can also have fun." - Gene Roddenberry

Kidfried

@FullbringIchigo I tend not to care about metacritic at all. I mean, how a game is scored over there is all the result of what outlets are participating.

For instance, game score differences between Xbox games and Nintendo games are super skewed because there are Nintendo fansites that also put in reviews, whereas hardly any for MS. And that influences grades and such.

Also, with Kotaku, Polygon and Eurogamer not scoring games any more, that has also wildly changed averages for new games.

Anyway, I don't think fan response is more important than game journalists anyway. A lot of games that try to listen to fans actually fail, because gamers often really don't know what they really want - especially the online fans.

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