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Fight_Teza_Fight

@KratosMD Ahh so that’s what that was. Think I best brush up on my Nordic mythology!

Yes that’s what I thought as well. It would be fitting for Kratos to die at the hands of Atreus & it would be great if Zeus ‘prophecy’ came true.

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On the back of this thread I have been reading up on Loki.

Those Norse writers were all kinds of messed up man.

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So I've finished the story. Epic last fight with Baldur. I see how things have been left open for a sequel with Odin, Thor and Feya as potential antagonists in the sequels.

And Atreus is Loki. Wow, really didn't see that one coming. I did wonder why he hadn't been mentioned but Odin and Thor had. Thanks to the MCU I feel well versed in Ragnarok and all that.

Sorry if this has already gone over, but I don't really wanna read the rest of this thread until I'm completely done with the game.

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KratosMD

@JohnnyShoulder Don't forget to return home for the secret ending!

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@JohnnyShoulder MCU is hardly a source for Norse mythology. It's worth reading up on actual Norse mythology, because I think you'll be able to pick up details in God of War many people missed.

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@KratosMD Just watching the credits now. Awesome!

@Octane Maybe 'well versed' was the wrong phrase to use. What I meant was that I was able to follow most of the story and the stuff in the MCU helped.

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BAMozzy

As it also contains spoilers... Its still very interesting to here Cory's commentary

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Ok so finished the story (finally). I've done everything except for the Valkyries, a few ravens and artefacts plus the two additional realms. Think I am going to drop the difficulty because the Valkyries are bar stewards and don't want to spend ages taking them on.

Overall though, wonderful wonderful game. I was so glad I had played through GoW 1-3 beforehand. While you didn't need to, I thought it gave extra resonance for the glimpses to Kratos' past, particularly the Blades of Chaos and Athena cameo. I still kind of want to know how Kratos managed to get to Midgard and meet his lady wife but wasn't really necessary I guess. Great foreshadowing at the end. I'm a bit confused as to why the giants were all dead as I thought they had a part to play in Ragnarok but who knows.I am glad they didn't try and cram in Thor and Odin and really made me hungry for more!

So toying with going for the Plat but I also have a lot of other games stacking up behind. Will see how it goes!

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Tip for the Valkyries: when they first awaken and their wings open you can damage em. I usually start with all my rune powers then switch weapon and use the rune powers for that weapon. When you get to low health use your Spartan Rage. When you die use resurrection stone and you will have full spartn rage meter again.
They are still difficult though and the hardest thing is to keep track of em as they can fly across the arena very quickly. Their red unblockable moves are usually highly telegraphed so you can dodge outta way.
Also spam the boys arrows when they are hovering and they will usually drop down.

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BAMozzy

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Octane

@BAMozzy I came here to post that video. What's on that mural?!

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JohnnyShoulder

So I was on top of the the mountain in Muspelheim. If you look past where the chests are and down the mountain, there are what looks like 4 huge thrones. I wonder what they are, if anything?

Also when you kill the Queen, does she say that Freya is the real Queen? I wonder if that will have any implications for the sequel?

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@JohnnyShoulder With regards to Freya, Memir has a bit of extra dialogue (providing you finished the main story) about what she might do in the sequel. If you fast travel that's the dialogue usually triggers.

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I finished the game and i vaguely remember what he said, but what exactly did he say?

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0ld_boy

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  • I assume, what you see from Muspelheim summit are the gateways to the other realms. Only that instead of a lake of water, these are surounded by lava. Take a look at the layout of The Lake of Nine and the gates there, you should find the resemblance.
  • And yes, some interpretation suggest Freya to be head/leader of the valkyries, furthermore there are references, that one half of the fallen belong to Odin and the other half to Freya and such... anyways within the GoW-Lore she was indeed the leader of the valkyries until her banishment. Only afterwards Sigrun was appointed by Odin to take that role (with some reluctance seemingly).
  • Mirmir comments on several things post-game, while travelling the realm between realms and the lake. He won't repeat, but some of it is recorded in the Journal, so you can read it up

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JohnnyShoulder

@0ld_boy Cheers for that! I'll have a read up when I get the game back.

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rjejr

@Octane You're killing me with that talk of 3 or 4 games, I was thinking 1, this game is the first half, next is the 2nd half. Then I was thinking this is more like 2/3 of the game, maybe the rest would just be $40 DLC. As much as this may be a complete game, I can't imagine any scenario where someone could play GoW2 w/o playing 1. You can play Uncharted 2 w/o 1, and I think you can play GoW 3 w/o any of the others, but as complete as this may seem to people, I don't see how a 2nd game can seem complete w/o this one. People just start playing and most of the world's are open or closed, you can or can't go to them. So yes, they set out to do what they did, but the world itself is sort of 2/3 done, how do they create a 2nd game without taking that into account?

So I'd almost eclectic to see a $40 GoW:Asgard DLC that just adds on to this one to finish this story, battle Thor and Odin, Howe error the mythology works, than a whole new game which I think would be unplayable by anyone who didn't play the first. It's not like Uncharted:Lost Legacy, that's different people in a different place. You may not know who they are, but I think that could play as a standalone game. I don't see GoW2 as stand alone. All the people who are saying GoW is a complete fame now will be saying after 2 "you should really play them yogether, it's 1 long game".

And if I have to wait 5 years each for 2 more sequels, well I'll be too old to play. I'd rather see 1 or 2 if need be $40 DLC - they already have the engine, mythology, story, just pump it out - every other year. If it's 2 more full games the last will certainly be on PS5, like GoW3 on PS3, I'd much rather they finish where they started on PS4, let PS5 get the complete game bundle for $80.

Thus is all about an E3 announcement BTW, I finished the game a month ago.

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@rjejr Nah, I'm certain there will be another two; Fimbulwinter and Ragnarok. That's sort of how the mythology goes. Everything goes down during a 3-year winter, and then it all ends in Ragnarok, the war that's simultaneously the end of world.

They've got the assets and the engine, so depending on when the PS5 comes out, we could be looking at a launch game and another one three years into its lifetime for example. 2018, 2020 and 2023 for example. Cory has big plans by the sounds of it, and he definitely spoke about ending this game with the beginning of Fimbulwinter, that was always his end point.

I'm certain they'll find a way to make it perfectly playable without playing the other games, but as with any story driven game, it's always recommended to play the others. And if the PS5 is BC, that should be no issue. But then, let's be honest, there's Kratos and Atreus, and Mimir. Baldur is dead, and only Freya is left. There are not a lot of characters you're missing out on. Only a handful of them. I wouldn't worry about that.

I wouldn't say the world is 2/3 done either. There's a lot of the other realms we haven't explored yet, they could be just as big as Midgard in theory. Take Alfheim, we only went to the Lake of Light in the north-east, the rest is still open for exploration. Then there's Asgard, Vanaheim and Svartalfheim, three realms which we haven't even seen at all. And with the Fimbulwinter in Midgard, I expect that the map will change a lot, just like how the Lake of Nine changed every time the serpent moved. Snow (and time in general) could affect the map. Or maybe they change the map quite a lot without explanation

I think it will work in a similar fashion to how The Witcher does it. In theory there's a huge map, but you can only go to the parts that are relevant for the story in that game. So that could mean that we get to explore Vanaheim and Svartalfheim in the sequel, but Jotunheim and Helheim are locked out. Maybe we get to explore different parts of Alfheim, with the Lake of Light blocked off for example.

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