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kyleforrester87

I’m so bad at this game. I’m half way through the burning estate but can’t beat the Shinobi hunter or that drunken guy. The Shinobi hunter in particular absolutely mauls me. He comes at you fast from a huge distance, sticks you like a pig and takes out 90% of your vitality in one move.

I beat the big ogre mini boss after about 15 attempts, then got stomped by a dude with a big sword in the next section. It’s nuts when you have more than 2 people on you, it all gets a bit Benny Hill actually.

Any tips? I guess I just gotta.. git gud?

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JohnnyShoulder

@kyleforrester87 Yeah git gud scrub.

If you are struggling with the shinobi Hunter with the spear, just leave him till a bit later, but you will need to purchase the Mirki Counter from the skills menu. It basically lets you stamp on the spear and stab them in the head. I've not beaten him yet but he is next on my hit list.

For the masked dude after the ogre you are best clearing out the enemies around him. But you are better off doing that from the next idol save point, as most of the enemies will have your back to you making them easier to kill. Especially that annoying dude on the roof that bangs the drum, take him out as ones as.

Once all the enemies are gone you can take on the mini boss. He is tough as he is so fast and difficult to read his moves. But you can sneak up behind him and perform a Deathblow to get rid off one of his health bars. You can try to jump over his sweep move (when the red sign appears) and kick him in the face to do some beefy damage, but it quite tricky to read. I mostly deflected his standard moved and hit him whenever I could a couple of times and move out the way quickly when he does on of his killer moves. If you have the axe for your arm that will help as it staggers him briefly allowing you get some more hits in. When I got his health to about half down I went super aggressive using the axe and standard moves, but always deflecting his standard moves.
Edit: make sure you keep an eye on your health and back out to heal up if required.

Or you just go to the next area if you get sick of facing him and come back to him later. You do not need to kill him to progress.

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kyleforrester87

@JohnnyShoulder I have Mirki counter, it’s difficult to judge when to use it as the Shinobi Hunter closes in so fast and causes so much damage. Yeah, I have side lined him for now. I’ll probably keep going past the ogre, thanks for the tip regarding the next shrine I’ll run through to that and go back on myself. It’s a bugger slowly stealth killing all his cronies just to get owned by him in seconds 😂

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JohnnyShoulder

@kyleforrester87 I was the same with the masked dude, he kept destroying me, along with the next boss and the shinobi hunter. So I was stuck on 3 bosses! I watched a couple of YouTube vids which helped. I think I was trying to counter his killer moves, whilst that is possible it is quite tricky as he is so fast. When I saw the vid they just backed away when he did this which I found much easier. But think the combat clicked for me then as I defeated the next boss after a couple of goes.

And yeah the Mikiri counter works well on the standard enemies, but not so much for the Shinobi hunter.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Rudy_Manchego You commented on the review page that you've come up across a a mini boss you can't get passed. Give us a shout if that is still still the case, I might be able to help.

I wish I could jump in and actually assist you guys in the game. Something that is missing from the SoulsBorne games, even if you played offline you could still call upon the help of a npc or two sometimes. The bosses seem just as difficult so would have been good to help others out. I know some didn't like being invaded, but I didn't mind it too much.

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Rudy_Manchego

@JohnnyShoulder To be fair, I only had a few goes. I am still really early in. I've got up to the drunken big bloke in the flashback and I am up to the troll thing in the main level. The troll has killed me a few times.

I have got to the point where I stealth him and do damage etc. with the flame attachment but I just mistime one of his killer moves. Trying the hit and run approach now.

I still seem to struggle with blocks/parrying and dodges. I am doing quite well at stealth, just not face to face combat. It's still skill which I am learning. Going to get stuck in tonight though

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Kyroki

I thought having 200+ hours on Bloodborne would've prepared me for this, but nope! How wrong I was!

This has been amazing so far. I'm only about 3-4 hours in, at Hirata Estate. Really enjoying it, even though I am getting owned.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Rudy_Manchego You've got further than me in the memory, but not tried since I upgraded some stuff. Well jell.

The ogre took me a few goes as he almost one hit kills you, especially when he chucks you over the edge. The flame barrel is good to use as it will stun him allowing you to get a few fair hits in. You can also use the grapple hook when the green symbol flashes and then if you have unlocked the skill move, use that. When he gets down to about half health on one bar, he will get more aggressive. I found using the grapple hook handy for healing up as there are quite a few points to latch onto. Buy yeah timing is key to your dodges, sometimes you have to dodge twice to avoid being grabbed.

Took me a while for the combat to click too. Think I was trying to counter everything when sometimes you are better off dodging or deflecting.

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kyleforrester87

@JohnnyShoulder I lured the ogre down the steps and then ran in close circles until he attacked, then role out the way or jumped backwards and went in for 2 sword stabs, either on foot or via the hook. Still took a while. Was more a case of patience and not getting greedy with 3 stabs at a time lol

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JohnnyShoulder

@kyleforrester87 That is pretty much how I did it. That running round in circles tactic may come in handy for a later boss....

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@kyleforrester87 Well done, took me way more attempts than that!
Yeah it makes life a lot easier when you can stealth kill the goons around him.

Enjoy the next section!

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JohnnyShoulder

@kyleforrester87 yep and then it went totally bonkers! I still managed to grab the goodies from the tree. I still don't know what they do though.

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JohnnyShoulder

@kyleforrester87 I just beaten the shinobi Hunter! Really easy lol. Do a stealth deathblow on him and then just hang back, don't fight him. Wait for him to do his red sign move and do the mikiri counter on him. Do this three times and you can do a the final death blow. Easy!

I think that is what the kids call cheesing it, but I dont care!

I have upgraded my attack power since last taking him on, so that probably helped too.

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@kyleforrester87 just shows how much I'm not down with the kids then lol

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kyleforrester87

@JohnnyShoulder haha I think cheesing would be trapping him behind a boulder and whacking him on the head

Just beat him with that tactic anyway, 4 beads now, time to beef up

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JohnnyShoulder

@Kyroki Glad your enjoying it! Wow 200 hours, think I managed about 130 in Bloodborne and that is getting to the last boss in the main game and dlc.

@kyleforrester87 ah right ha ha don't think I've done that too many times, but the last boss kinda got stuck in a corner. He did it to me loads though so I don't feel so guilty lol.

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Rudy_Manchego

@JohnnyShoulder Well I never took out the Shinobi hunter because I found a short cut into the burning village that avoids him entirely. I only know this because everyone kept going on about the Shinobi hunter and I was like, who?

I managed to beat the Ogre after about half hour of attempts. In the end I just kept running away and then running towards him, flaming him and then running away again. It was not the most elegant of fights but hey, it finally worked.

The next area I cleared all the guys out first time silently, then got owned by the mini boss but to be honest I had completely forgotten about the jump button. Where is the next shrine or save point from that area? Going in from the ogre save point is a pain in the A.

I must say, after spending 90 odd minutes in those two areas, I have started to question the time vs enjoyment factor. I love the stealth and normal baddie combat but I hate the death system, namely getting dragon rot. I like the risk of do I bank XP/Sen and retreat or risk it all but I also hate that death causes problems for me in the game. FOr example, in the orgre fight, to avoid death, I would withdraw if I had to respawn to avoid death but twice I got thrown over the cliff and couldn't grapple. If I wasn't concerned about losing XP so I might have beaten it quicker.

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