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Th3solution

@Gremio108 What an interesting and inspiring summary of your RDR2 experience. I think you hit the nail on the head with needing to alter one’s expectations in order to be fully immersed. Very interesting comparison to Bloodborne there, and I can relate. I was so frustrated with BB until I accepted it for what it was and played the game the way it was meant to be played. RDR2 is a similar animal, like you say, although for me personally the frustration mounted again late game when the inevitable conclusion to the story was dangled like a carrot for so long. Those quiet moments of just being a cowboy and feeing a part of the world were drowned out by the endless and laborious paths you are forced down. But yours is a wonderfully articulated comment about how the game evolved for you and ultimately moved you.

Actually the longer I am removed from the game completion (now having had a few days since finishing it to let it all sink in) I am less angry at the game and more appreciative. Ive been looking back more fondly at the amazing achievement in gaming that it really is. I still stand by a lot of my criticisms though. And ultimately it is why I probably can’t have it quite make my personal top 5, or even my top 10. In fact I’d still place Detroit Become Human above it for GOTY 2018, but it would be a close call (and I also haven’t played Spider-Man, God of War, or Assassin’s Creed Odyssey yet)

Part of the cool thing about RDR2 too though is how I am hearing how everyone’s experience is so different. And by that I mean the actual in game moments can be drastically different depending on how you choose to play it and how you spend your time in game. Even the story missions can vary slightly it seems. I only today found out that there are actually 4 different endings depending on your honor level. In mine Arthur died peacefully, but apparently other endings can vary. I won’t spoil too much in case you want to replay the game but there is a significant difference Hearing some of these variations makes me respect the game so much more. It’s part of why I was so impressed with Detroit as well.

And, at the end of the day, here I am still discussing the game several days after finishing it. And very much like a good movie that you ponder for days and weeks after seeing it - to me this is the mark of a really good work of art.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Gremio108

@Th3solution Thanks man, and I got the same ending as you by the way.

It was all about letting go I think. Letting go of the time constraints and 'pressures' (ridiculous word to use but I can't think of a better one) of gaming as an adult. I started playing like I used to play games as a kid - not worrying about how long it was going to take me to complete, and willingly getting distracted by everything as I went. And accepting that Arthur moves and acts realistically (ie very slowly). Once I started doing that, it became the best thing ever. I'm not blind to its faults or anything, some of the design decisions are plain odd. But it all starts to make sense in the end. Apart from not being able to store weapons at camp.

How much more are you planning to play it, or are you done? I'm going to spend a few more hours with it, trotting about the world looking for collectibles and odd little things that I've missed, although I might have to resort to a guide, otherwise I'm never going to find them all. I can't see me playing the online side of it.

Also, I want that trophy for studying every animal. I want to see them all! I'm not so keen on skinning them though.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

Th3solution

@Gremio108 Yeah, I kinda want to go back and experience some things that I didn’t do before, do more hunting and collectible gathering. I understand the entire map from the first game is built into this one, which is just insane. I saw plenty of Blackwater and the Marston ranch and surrounding areas, but I’d like to revisit New Austin and spend time back in Fort Mercer and Tumbleweed for old time’s sake. And I would like to see some of the cut scenes I didn’t get to see such as the other endings and do a ‘low honor’ playthrough, but there’s really no chance of that since my backlog beckons. The most I can expect in the short term is to return and try out Red Dead Online, but I’m going to wait until the beta is over and it is ‘complete.’ I’m not much of an online gamer, but I’m curious how it will be when it’s all done. I don’t want to waste my time before then though.
With other gargantuan games like Persona 5 to complete and Witcher 3 to start, I have too much else to do rather than go back to the main story. But I will keep it on the HDD just in case.

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Gremio108

@Th3solution Yep, Red Dead II has killed my backlog. I think I'm going to play Nioh next but I've not decided yet.

Like you, I'm going to wait until the online is no longer in beta, just in case those whispers that progress won't carry over turn out to be true (although people are so invested now that I think there'd be a riot). It's worth having a look around New Austin, even though there's not an awful lot going on. I wandered up to Rathskeller Fork when I was playing today - the nostalgia waves were real. I did actually keep a save file from Chapter Six, so in theory I could find all the collectibles as Arthur, which is tempting... But I think I'm going to stick with John.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

Thrillho

I has zero interest in online after completing the main game. It’s a little weird as I bloody loved GTA Online.

Thrillho

Th3solution

@Thrillho @Gremio108 I played the online for the first game a little bit. It was alright. I met up with people and raided some outposts and played some poker. But it wasn’t too enthralling. I was hoping it would be better for this game. The Battle Royale mode will be something to try. Rather than parachuting in, maybe you spawn in a canoe or a stagecoach and can travel to the spot you want to start at. The thunder storms in the main game are really impressive at some points, so that could easily be integrated into the collapsing circle that pushes people together into an every shrinking area free of the severe weather. Mix in bears and wolves who attack the outer areas and viola — you have a unique and realistic spin on BR.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Gremio108

@Th3solution I've been obsessed with trying to get struck by lightning in Red Dead II and today I came within about five feet of a strike. The whole screen went blinding white and there were sparks raining about afterwards. It must have just missed. I've even tried climbing hills and holding the gun in the air...

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

Th3solution

@Gremio108 🤣 Nice. There is the one side quest where you have the lightning rods for that scientist dude. If you could go back far enough in your saves maybe you can try that one. I forget the guy’s name.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Gremio108

@Th3solution Marko Dragic. Not sure why I didn't think of that, maybe I hadn't developed my lightning obsession by that point. My wife hasn't done that quest yet, that's getting hijacked by me.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

WanderingBullet

Apparently, RDO is pretty bad now due to latest update. Personally, I haven't really played it, yet and that's because I haven't finished playing the story either. That being said, I find it really funny that fans of Rockstar were defending the developer when they said they were going to be relying on player feedbacks to improve the online mode prior to the game being released.

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Tasuki

Finally got around to playing this game and so far I am enjoying it. Haven't tried Online yet but the main game is good. I find myself relaxing by just exploring and doing stuff like hunting and fishing. Still figuring out some things like a good way to make money and how much I should be eating but I am sure I will figure them out here soon enough.

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Tasuki

Ok so I am confused now how often should I eat to maintain average weight? It keeps dropping to underweight.

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andreoni79

@Tasuki Just ignore that useless "feature". In San Andreas it was a fast and funny thing to do; here, thanks to the love to realism, you should stop doing anything, sitting all day in the camp and eating 12 times per day to gain weight. Doing that, you'll reach 300 kilos in 6 months (in-game time), unlocking a new NPC, doc. Nowzaradan, and his secret mission.

Praise the Sun, and Mario too.

Kidfried

@Tasuki It's really hard to maintain a healthy weight. I ate at the saloon every day, that was how I did it. Eating in camp depends on the size of the meat you donate as well, so it often wasn't enough for me.

I ignored it a lot of times as well, like @andreoni79 recommends.

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Th3solution

@Tasuki yeah, I was constantly underweight. I think unless you really focus on eating all the time, which can be monotonous, you’re going to be running on the thin side. It means that you’ll be a little quicker and more spry (supposedly), but can take fewer shots before going down. The game’s not terribly difficult, so it didn’t really bother me too much to be underweight. Sure I would have liked to have more health, but it wasn’t worth the time investment in keeping Arthur well fed and rested.

Glad you’re enjoying it! It’s a great game.

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Tasuki

Hmmm I was afraid it was something like that. I applaud these games for adding realistic features but at the same time it drives me batty how unrealistic they can be.

My biggest annoyance is the way time flows in games like GTA and RDR2. I understand that they can't have it like real time but it annoys me when I barely do anything and a day has passed.

But yeah anyway thinks for the tips guys.

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