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KratosMD

@nessisonett Yeah that game looks great but I'm not really feeling the ME vibes from it. It feels mostly like a Fallout game and I have plenty of them to play. I'm definitely going to play it eventually but not right now.

I mean it's pretty much impossible to find a series that's like Mass Effect because what makes them unique is mainly their interconnected story across an entire trilogy. So even though Andromeda is fundamentally a good Mass Effect game, it's still a one-off with no familiar characters and that's why it didn't resonate with most people.

Maybe what would be better for me is a series with games that share an interconnected story..

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andreoni79

@KratosMD What about Prey? It offers a good sci-fi story set in a gorgeous space station (E.V.A. included!), all with the typical Arkane Studios gameplay.
Alien: Isolation is another sci-fi classic.

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KratosMD

@andreoni79 I'm looking more for a space adventure, not really space horror so Alien: Isolation is off the tables. However, Prey might be a good game to play actually. I'm not familiar with Arkane Studios (still haven't played the Dishonored games), so what's the gameplay like? Is it an FPS and does it have any RPG mechanics? It seems rather lengthy according to HowLongToBeat so I'm guessing there are some intricate mechanics involved in its gameplay.

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andreoni79

@KratosMD Being an Arkane Studios game, you are free to complete every mission as you prefer.
You can upgrade your character focusing on "human" skills (combat, hacking, crafting...) and on "alien" skills (telekinesis, elemental powers, mimicking...). There are trophies for beating the game with only human skills or only alien skills, which means beating it with two very different approaches.
https://youtu.be/0QCR6nOPOLc

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JohnnyShoulder

Man that reminds me, i have Prey and still not started it. The shame. 😶

@KratosMD Out of the two games you mentioned, I say Dues Ex was the more fun game to play. Dragon Age got bogged down with the side quests being lame and too much stuff felt like a chore to do. Others really enjoyed it though, I did not.

The Outer Worlds is the bomb though. If you wanna fun sci-fi dialogue heavy consequence based RPG, then that is the game you need to play.

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KratosMD

@andreoni79 The game reminds me a lot of BioShock based on that gameplay footage, interesting! Will definitely have to check it out soon, thanks!

@JohnnyShoulder Another reason why I brought up those two games is because they are incredibly cheap right now, €10 each, which is a very good price for the amount of playtime offered. Do you think it's worth it to buy both Deus Ex and Dragon Age at that price?

And yeah, I'll definitely check out The Outer Worlds eventually!

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JohnnyShoulder

@KratosMD Yeah for those prices you can't go wrong really. Deus Ex is the shorter game and Dragon's Age is more open world, so there is more content. It just whether you can put up with the slog that some of the stuff feels like.

I was thinking last night, as i was playing The Outer Worlds, I was defo getting a bit of a Mass Effect vibe, especially with some of the choices you make.

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KratosMD

@JohnnyShoulder Nice, I'm probably going to buy Dragon Age first because of the amount of content and then Deus Ex next. Thanks!

Sounds interesting regarding The Outer Worlds. However, I remember reading that the game is receiving story DLC down the line so I'll probably just wait for a GOTY edition at this point.

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RogerRoger

@KratosMD I don't wanna keep typing the words "Star Wars" (and it likely won't drop in price for a while) but your criteria are mostly fulfilled by Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. You are in a spaceship, you go to different planets and there are aliens, friendly and otherwise. It has fun real-time gameplay and by nature of its franchise, there is indeed an epic story to see through (with strong connections to the films, if not other games).

The only place it'd fall down is in the dialogue department. You will occasionally get the choice between two responses, but it doesn't affect much, if anything. There is a Skill Tree, so it's kinda RPG-lite, but there's nothing on the scale of a BioWare game.

One to consider when a similar mood strikes you in future, perhaps.

The other games you've been recommended are likely better fits for you at the moment, however. Dragon Age is a steal at the price you've found. I thought that its fantasy setting would be a huge turn-off for me, coming fresh from the space battles and laser cannons of Mass Effect, but I got absorbed by its storyline and characters all the same.

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KratosMD

@RogerRoger Fallen Order is definitely a game I want to check out, but like you said it probably won't drop in price anytime soon. But as soon as it does, I'm absolutely getting the game. I really want to play a good Star Wars game and the one I've played (The Force Unleashed) wasn't that good.

Yeah I think I'll like Inquisition the most just because it feels a lot like Mass Effect in terms of characters, dialogue options and so on. I usually want to play a series from the first game but I think I'll just skip ahead to Inquisition because Origins doesn't look as appealing to me as that one.

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RogerRoger

@KratosMD Origins is great if you're determined to play the entire trilogy, and want to experience the set-up of the world and characters, but it has aged the worst and has a fair few moments that basically, nowadays, feel like a slog. I would strongly recommend playing Dragon Age II before Inquisition, however, although if you don't have access to a PS3 then I'm sure the latter game would set you up with a default backstory. Just be prepared to do a little bit of Google searching and / or dismissive shrugging at moments which are clearly callbacks.

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger I apologize for saying some of this again, but since @KratosMD is considering the series it bears repeating — I played Inquisition without having played DA2 and I felt it was fine, but you’re right, I did a lot of shrugging and just going on without a full understanding of some of the characters and world. The few characters that return from previous games were all new to me, so I had no emotional investment in them. Perhaps that’s why I never finished it. I’ve always attributed my running out of steam for the game to its somewhat long-windedness, large number of diversionary side activities and areas to explore that bogged me down, and the relatively cumbersome constant menu checking and shuffling around of equipment for my party. I think I burned myself out by not being more focused in my playthrough. I explored every map fully and constantly focused on my equipment and I think this led to my undoing. In my wandering about, I eventually ran into a dragon that I couldn’t defeat despite shuffling multiple parties and using various tactics and equipment and I grew frustrated; I think that was the final straw for my losing interest (despite the fact that there were tons of open quests and areas I could have gone to level up and come back to that stupid dragon, which was a completely optional boss in the first place and separate from the main story). But perhaps if I had a little more investment in the characters and seeing the lore of the world play out, then I would have pushed through.
I played the first few hours of DA: Origins and never really clicked with it, so Inquisition was definitely my first real time in the world. DA : Origins is definitely less refined in the gameplay and combat department, so it may be off-putting for someone new to it. But if you enjoy older games and don’t mind a little jankiness, then you’ll likely be okay.
That all said, I really enjoyed the 50-60 ish hours I spent with Inquisition and have oft felt the need to return to it. I think I said this before as well, but I might have played it a little too close to Skyrim and Dragon’s Dogma too and that could have cause the burn-out (no pun intended) with dragon over-saturation.

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RogerRoger

@Th3solution No apology necessary, it's always worth hearing from the perspective of somebody who more accurately reflects the question in hand. Inquisition is a tricky game to "play right" and I'm grateful I had a friend watching my progress, basically yelling "Get out of the Hinterlands!" every ten minutes because otherwise, like you, my map-clearing OCD would've seen me still wandering that first map to this day. It's great that the fiddly stuff (loadout tweaking, stat-checking, etc.) is there for hardcore RPG fans, but it's much more rewarding for the likes of you and I with a brisk focus on story and the occasional "guess I'll tidy up the quest menu a bit" couple hours to break things up (which so often descends into fleeing from overpowered dragons, yes!).

Using an example @KratosMD and I were recently discussing, I think the Dragon Age games sit in a happy middle ground between Final Fantasy (totally separate storylines and characters every time) and an involved, ongoing storyline like Trials of Cold Steel. Each installment of the trilogy is separate-ish, with a new protagonist and core narrative (crucially featuring a satisfying-enough beginning, middle and end) but the callbacks, references, fan service and recurring characters make it all feel neatly interconnected at the same time.

Bottom line is, there's enough to love in each game for them to be taken standalone, but if you're a lore buff who loves immersion then I'd always play as much of it as possible, in sequence.

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DonJorginho

I actually have Dragon Age Inquisition downloaded on my PS4 and untouched, hmm.....

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KratosMD

@RogerRoger @Th3solution Well then, I think I'll postpone my purchase of Inquisition then. I also don't feel comfortable playing a game with a number two in the title, so I'll just have to play the series from the beginning with Origins.

I mean I get you guys, I've been telling other people that you really need to play the Trails of Cold Steel series from the beginning in order to fully appreciate each game and I can see that with Dragon Age as well. I understand how important world building is from personal experience with ToCS and Mass Effect, so I'm definitely not going to make the mistake of ruining my experience with this series by playing the games in the wrong order.

So while Origins isn't as compelling to me as Inquisition right now, I'm definitely going to play it first whenever I get around to it. But right now, I don't feel like getting into a series like this since it's probably going to feel very overwhelming if I'm not in the right mood (and having just finished ToCSIII, I'm definitely not in the right mood).

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JohnnyShoulder

Not once when I was playing Inquisition did I think I was missing anything from the previous games. As far as I know the story is pretty much self contained and there are only a few characters that pop up in the previous games. So it would be like oh thats whats his face from the previous game. And then you move on with the rest of the game.

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