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@AdamNovice Looks good, exactly where I'd place them. Sly Cooper is my favourite of the first party PS2 platformers and the games hold up incredibly well

@KALofKRYPTON @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam A slightly revised list based on your feedback, Sniper Elite V2 moves up to IMPORTANT. While Skylanders Giants moves down to EXISTING.

VERY IMPORTANT
Sleeping Dogs

IMPORTANT
The Sims 3
Singularity
Siren: Blood Curse
Skate
Skate 2
Skate 3
Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure
The Sly Collection
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Sniper Elite V2

EXISTING
The Simpsons Game
The Sims: Pets
Skylanders: Giants
Sniper Elite III

UNIMPORTANT
Ski-Doo: Snowmobile Challenge
The Smurfs 2
Sniper: Ghost Warrior
Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2

POINTLESS
Snipers

@AdamNovice I would move Skylanders up to very important. It basically spawned Amiibo and all the other toys to life tat we see everywhere.

Likewise I think Skate (the original) gets a pass to very important for its use of the right stick. Since then a number of games have used it as a skills control scheme. Obviously now we are used to it but back then it was unique.

@AdamNovice @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam
New stuff - should be fairly easily done:

Wipeout HD SCE Studio Liverpool
VERY IMPORTANT

The Witch and the Hundred Knight Nippon Ichi Software
NO IDEA

The Wolf Among Us Telltale Games
EXISTING (It's a fantastic, beautiful, well acted game, but the beginning of the end for any actually significant player agency for the Telltale stuff)

Wolfenstein Raven Software / id Software
Edit: EXISTING

Wolfenstein: The New Order MachineGames
Edit: IMPORTANT

Mine would be:
The Wolf Among Us IMPORTANT
Wipeout HD VERY IMPORTANT
Wolfenstein EXISTING
Wolfenstein The New Order IMPORTANT.

@kalofkrypton I'm curious where you rank New Order lower, many regard it with revitalizing the IP, not debating just wondering?

@AdamNovice ha!

That's because I've put those completely the wrong way round 🙄😂

I liked TNO, it was good fun - but about 3 levels too long.

Haven't played any of them, to my shame. But from what I've heard/read, this sounds about right.

The Wolf Among Us IMPORTANT
Interesting setting, great characters and a really gripping story. For me this is the best Telltale game I've experienced (though there's a lot I haven't played).

Wolfenstein The New Order IMPORTANT
A thoroughly enjoyable and very well designed FPS that I liked from start to finish. Well structured and nicely paced too,
with an excellent story. I did find it a little difficult in places, particularly the final boss.
As I played the PS4 version I had to do a little research to see what it's like on the PS3. According to Digital Foundry it has worse visuals, which is to be expected, but mostly runs at 60fps. I think 60fps is very important for an FPS game, but sadly was a rarity on the last-gen consoles outside of the Call of Duty series.

Not played the last three, so based on a little research...

The Witch and the Hundred Knight UNIMPORTANT
Hmm wasn't too sure what to make of this when watching videos as it's not something I would typically go for. Basically a top down-ish Action RPG. Push Square were not enamoured in their review (5/10), stating that whilst it has an interesting battle system a myriad of issues drag it down, such as poor locations, interface and story.

Wipeout HD IMPORTANT
Brilliant presentation, clean visuals and awesome soundtrack. Very well received and I remember at the initial time of release it was considered a very important PSN release.

Wolfenstein EXISTING
Critics seemed to think it was generally solid but by the numbers with sub-par performance. In gameplay videos I haven't seen anything that contradicts that, though obviously it's not the same as experiencing the game while playing.

@KALofKRYPTON @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam How does this look

Wipeout HD VERY IMPORTANT
The Witch and the Hundred Knight UNIMPORTANT
The Wolf Among Us IMPORTANT
Wolfenstein EXISTING
Wolfenstein The New Order IMPORTANT

@AdamNovice love it.

@AdamNovice Looks good to me. I really need to play The Wolf Among Us

@AdamNovice @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam
New List!

Sadly, I was sleeping at the wheel and Ralizah swept in and took the sweetest picks (Time Cirsis... I've failed you...) - I've played some of these, but I'm hoping there are Tony Hawks and Tom Clancy fans on our team!

*Stuntman: Ignition Paradigm Entertainment
*Syndicate Starbreeze Studios
*Tekken Hybrid Namco
*Terminator Salvation GRIN / Halcyon Games
*Test Drive Ferrari Legends Slightly Mad Studios
*Test Drive Unlimited 2 Eden Games
*The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena Starbreeze Studios / Tigon Studios
*The Club Bizarre Creations
*Tom Clancy's EndWar Ubisoft Shanghai
*Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Red Storm Entertainment
*Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier Ubisoft Paris
*Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X Ubisoft Bucharest
*Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2 Ubisoft Bucharest
*Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 Ubisoft Montreal
*Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft
*Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD Ubisoft Montreal
*Tony Hawk's Project 8 Neversoft
*Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 Robomodo
*Tony Hawk's Proving Ground Neversoft
*Tony Hawk: Ride Robomodo
*Tony Hawk: Shred Robomodo
*Top Gun: Hard Lock Headstrong Games
*Top Spin 3 PAM Development
*Top Spin 4 2K Czech
*Transformers: Dark of the Moon High Moon Studios
*Transformers: Fall of Cybertron High Moon Studios
*Transformers: The Game Traveller's Tales
*Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Luxoflux
*Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Edge of Reality
*Transformers: War for Cybertron High Moon Studios

I've played The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena and a bit of Tekken Hybrid so shall start with them.

Assault on Dark Athena is a collection containing the remake of the first Riddick game Escape from Butcher Bay and its new, but shorter sequel Assault on Dark Athena. As such it is quite a good value package - particularly in the UK where it had a budget price.
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Basically the Riddick titles are first person stealth games, with Riddick armed with these metal spike things, but the hook is that you spend large amounts of time crawling around in the dark. At first this is quite difficult, but Riddick soon gets his weird see in the dark vision.

The first game was notable for being a particularly GOOD licensed property based on a movie franchise and this was actually quite rare back then. Starbreeze also made the wise decision to set it completely outside the events of the film, and thus it has its own plot and setting. Set in the titular Butcher Bay prison, it sees Riddick - as you would expect - scaping from this notoriously galactic Alcatraz.

The game overall plays well, runs smoothly and is also very nice looking for its time. In addition to the sizeable main story there are also a lot of side quests, fleshing out the world considerably. Stealth is thankfully a particular highlight of the gameplay, with picking off (or ignoring) enemies the best way to play. Combat is not particularly great, which I actually find to be the case in most stealth games, but here is particularly difficult and clunky.

Starbreeze did a nice job remaking the game rather than simply HD-ifying it, and the production values are solid.

I also rather enjoyed the sequel, but it seems the developer attempted to address criticism of the combat from the first by having a lot more of it and more gunplay. I liked the spaceship setting a lot, which I would say was absolutely nailed, and particularly good use of light and shadows is made. The characters and voice acting is also very good; damn is Michelle Forbes as the villainous captain nasty. Great performance!
The relatively short length of the game was viewed as a downside, but I think that within the context of the overall package it actually doesn't matter. It was shorter so resources could be devoted to online multiplayer, which no one ended up playing.

Anyhow, because of the value of the package and quality of the remake and new game, I say Assault on Dark Athena is a solid IMPORTANT.

@mookysam
Absolutely agree!

My rankings:
Syndicate IMPORTANT
Tekken Hybrid EXISTING
Chronicles of Riddick IMPORTANT
Splinter Cell Blacklist IMPORTANT
Top Spin 4 IMPORTANT
Transformers War for Cybertron EXISTING

Tekken Hybrid - A strange collection containing an HD remaster of Tag Tournament from the PS2, the feature length CG film Blood Vengeance and a demo of Tag Tournament 2.

The first Tag Tournament - originally an early PS2 release - really shows its age here. I did quite enjoy the film, particularly for its fight scenes, although the plot is utterly ludicrous. The demo is more of a bonus than anything. Tag Tournament 2 itself is rather good. EXISTING

@KalofKrypton Thanks for a decent list mate.
@Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam That time of the week again gang, let us know your thoughts if you can.

VERY IMPORTANT
Transformers: Fall of Cybertron

IMPORTANT
Syndicate
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault On Dark Athena
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Top Spin 4
Transformers: War for Cybertron

EXISTING
Stuntman Ignition
Tekken Hybrid
Test Drive: Ferrari Legends
The Club
Tom Clancy's EndWar
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Solider
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD
Top Spin 3

UNIMPORTANT
Terminator Salvation
Test Drive Unlimited 2
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (the PS2 and PS3 had no multiplayer but the Xbox versions did, very strange)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground
Top Gun: Hard Lock
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Transformers: The Game
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

POINTLESS
Tony Hawk: Ride (That's the one with the skateboard peripheral)
Tony Hawk: Shred
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 (Remember when the series used to be good?)
Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark

@AdamNovice Looks good to me.

@AdamNovice
I'd shift War for and Fall of Cybertron to Very Important. It had been quite along while since the last decent Transformers game (the PS2 Armada one) - and these were two fantastically staged games.

Perhaps put Tom Clancy's EndWar in to Important. I only played the demo of it, but the voice control was really very impressive I thought.

Well then team!
@AdamNovice @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam

I've played exactly 1 game on this list of treasures! have at it and shout out if you've any experience here!

UEFA Euro 2008 EA Canada
UFC Personal Trainer: The Ultimate Fitness System Heavy Iron Studios
UFC Undisputed 3 Yuke's
Under Defeat HD: Deluxe Edition Rising Star Games EXISTING Great translated shmup, but other than being on available in the west, isn't particularly important.
Vancouver 2010 Eurocom
Venetica Deck13 Interactive
Wheelman Midway Studios – Newcastle / Tigon Studios
Winter Sports 2010: The Great Tournament RTL Entertainment
Winter Stars 49Games
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars Big Ant Studios
World Series of Poker 2008: Battle for the Bracelets Left Field Productions
World Snooker Championship 2007 Blade Interactive
WRC: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 2: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 3: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 4: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC Powerslide Milestone S.r.l.
WSC Real 08: World Snooker Championship Blade Interactive
WSC Real 09: World Snooker Championship Blade Interactive
WWE 2K16 Visual Concepts/Yuke's
WWE 2K17 Visual Concepts/Yuke's
WWE All Stars THQ San Diego
WWE Legends of WrestleMania Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 Yuke's
X-Factor Koch Media
XBlaze Lost: Memories Arc System Works
Yoostar 2: In the Movies Yoostar Entertainment