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themcnoisy

I will join in asap. Spent my day off watching the Tour of Britain in real life, the finishing this....

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

PSN: mc_noisy

Th3solution

@themcnoisy Nice! Very catchy! Anyway you can get each little Lego guy to dance individually? 😉

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

themcnoisy

@Th3solution The idea was to have more stuff on the main screen of the decks and a couple of my unused characters to drive around a catwalk at points of the video. That proved a lot more difficult than it sounds. I really struggle with free form animations preferring massively to use single frames which I can line up perfectly (perfectly for my trembling sausage fingers) and have them fade into and out of each other I ended up fudging the free forms animations up, so replaced the catwalk with a mixer which has buttons which light up. But even that is a pain in the backside and takes longer than it should.

The video I posted may not be the final cut. I still want more going on with the mix desk screen (I've only just realised what I can do, dough) A couple of rotating lazers over the crowd at points and some more speech bubbles from the audience. Anyway that can wait and after an estimated 25 hours that's what I made.

Did you see the fireworks at the end of the third buildup? That section is my favourite in the whole track for both the music and visuals.

I will get cracking on with the votes from tomorrow to put a line under this section!

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

PSN: mc_noisy

Th3solution

@themcnoisy Yeah the fireworks were great, with your name rising up from the shadows. It was very stylish. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. If I get Dreams it will be to play and see what creations others have done, rather than to make my own. It seems like more commitment than I can muster at the present.

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

themcnoisy

To the top

Jimmie Johnson's Anything with an Engine Isopod Labs
MotoGP 15 Milestone s.r.l.
NBA Ballers: Chosen One Midway Games

To the Bottom

Mugen Souls

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

PSN: mc_noisy

Th3solution

@themcnoisy Thanks, Noisy.

We are down to about 15 or so games now. So what I’d suggest is each of us try to pull out our favorite 4-5 games. If we can rank this last bit, then we can spend a day or two on vetos and move around any games we think are misplaced before we lock the list for submission. So again, first come first served — pick your favorite 4-5 game and either rank them at the top of bottom.

@Jaz007 @RogerRoger @Frigate

By the way — kudos, team for getting through this. Having the L, M, N group was rough because of all the NBA, NHL, Madden, NCAA, etc. This was certainly a challenging section of the “Not Important” list.
We’re almost there! I can see the light!

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Jaz007

1. Already taken by Resi 6, which is better game than it gets credit for. Should be existing at least IMO.
2. Medieval Moves. It has legitimate novelty value. I'd even say it should be existing. It's fun.
3. Jimmie Johnsons anything with an Engine. An okay Kart racers with a few crazy but interesting ideas.
4. Knights Contracts: A read a review and it had some real execution issues, but interesting and ideas and a good story.
5. I'll put Jurrasic: the hunted up top. It's not a very good game, but it deserves a little merit for that entertaining it's terrible b-movie style it has. Example: Excellent dialogue like "What the foxtrot!?"
6. Monsters Vs. Aliens. An ultimately forgettable movie tie but read it could be a fairly solid platformer, so not too terrible, but hardly great or of any real importance.
7. MotoGP 15 Seems like another racing game. PS3 version could issues compared to reviewed PS4 version though.
8. Fit in Six About as generic not important fitness game as you'll get.
9. MX vs. ATV Alive It lost the series direction as I read and has real "importance issues" there. Putting it here to push towards the bottom.
10. Bottom please bottom please bottom please. IHF Handball Challenge There are no reviews if you don't really look, then the're bad. How did this end up on the "not important list"? Shove it close to the bottom and have my post being before someone else's prop it up please.

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RogerRoger

@Th3solution If there's anything left, let me know and I'll offer some thoughts.

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

Frigate

Lost: Via Domus Ubisoft Montreal - While it was a bit of extra fun for fans, it should be avoided by anyone else.

Legendary Spark Unlimited - Interesting mythological setting made this FPS stand out. Seemingly preferred by the community over the critics who have a tendency to see things for what they are than what they should be.

Er, what else is left?

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Frigate

Th3solution

@Jaz007 Thanks, bro - Yeah, you got in quickest at the beginning, so Resi 6 is our #1 overall, no worries. The others you ranked I have placed next in line from the top of the list in the order you ranked, except for IHF Handball which by your comment I interpreted you were voting to place it as the next in line from where we are building from the bottom.

@Frigate Alright, I’ll place those two next in order from the top after Jaz’s games.

@RogerRoger If you don’t mind, the list below contains the last six games to be ranked. They will go in the middle of the list, if you’ll just order them from best to worst please, sir :

Get Up and Dance O-Games
Hellboy: The Science of Evil Krome Studios
Little League Baseball World Series 2010 Now Production
Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts
NBA 08 SCE San Diego Studio
NCAA Basketball 10 EA Canada

Once Rog get me these then I will post our completed list. And our next step will be a one day veto-type round where we can correct any egregious errors we’ve made for the next 24-48 hours until the list is due Saturday.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

RogerRoger

@Th3solution Here ya go, Chief. Based (mostly) on review scores.

NCAA Basketball '10
NBA '08
Hellboy: The Science of Evil
Major League Baseball 2K12
Little League Baseball World Series 2010
Get Up and Dance

I couldn't sleep anyway, but looking up all those sports games should helzzzzz... zzzzz...

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

Th3solution

@Jaz007 @RogerRoger @themcnoisy @Frigate

Distinguished members of the council, I present to you.... The PS3’s Not Important Games, Letters F through R!

[cue: applause] 👏🏼

Resident Evil 6 Capcom
Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault Insomniac Games
MX vs. ATV Reflex Rainbow Studios
Madden NFL 10 EA Tiburon
Murdered: Soul Suspect Airtight Games
Hyperdimension Neptunia Idea Factory, Compile Heart
NHL 2K10 Visual Concepts
Genji: Days of the Blade Game Republic
MLB 16: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions
NASCAR 09 EA Tiburon
Fuse Insomniac Games
Madden NFL 11 EA Tiburon
Fritz Chess Deep Silver
NCAA Football 09 EA Tiburon
Operation Flashpoint: Red River Codemasters
Fuel Asobo Studios
Lego Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game Traveller's Tales
Lost Planet 2 Capcom
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men IO Interactive
Hunted: The Demon's Forge Bethesda Softworks
MLB 12: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
PES 2015: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom Game Republic
Grand Slam Tennis 2 EA Canada
Fracture
Hail to the Chimp
Happy Feet Two
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Monopoly
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution
NASCAR 2014
PlayStation Move Heroes
NBA 2K8 Visual Concepts / Kush Games
Need for Speed: Shift Slightly Mad Studios
LEGO Lord Of The Rings Traveller's Tales
London 2012 Sega
Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory Idea Factory, Compile Heart
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 Tecmo Koei, Omega Force
PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures Bandai Namco Games
NCAA Football 09 EA Tiburon
LEGO Marvel's Avengers Traveller's Tales
NASCAR The Game: Inside Line Eutechnyx
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix EA UK
Madden NFL 09 EA Tiburon
Record of Agarest War Idea Factory
NHL 2K8 Visual Concepts / Kush Games
Natural Doctrine Kadokawa Games
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
Nat Geo Challenge! Wild Life Gusto Games
Lost Planet 3 Spark Unlimited
NHL 15 EA Canada
Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days IO Interactive
NASCAR 2011: The Game Eutechnyx
Ratatouille Heavy Iron Studios
Kung Fu Panda 2 THQ
Just Dance 2016 Ubisoft Paris
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa Toys For Bob
MX vs. ATV Supercross Rainbow Studios
NASCAR Unleashed Firebrand Games
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II
Jeopardy!
Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends
Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole
Mayhem Left Field Productions
Monster Madness: Grave Danger
NCAA March Madness '08
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Jimmie Johnson's Anything with an Engine Isopod Labs
MotoGP 15 Milestone s.r.l.
NBA Ballers: Chosen One Midway Games
Medieval Moves: Deadmund’s Quest
Knights Contracts
Jurrasic: The Hunted
Monsters Vs. Aliens
Fit in Six
MX vs. ATV Alive
Lost: Via Domus Ubisoft Montreal
Legendary Spark Unlimited
NCAA Basketball '10
NBA '08
Hellboy: The Science of Evil
Major League Baseball 2K12
Little League Baseball World Series 2010
Get Up and Dance
IHF Handball Challenge
Mugen Souls
Need for Speed: ProStreet EA Black Box
Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2 Idea Factory, Compile Heart
Front Mission Evolved
Guitar Hero Smash Hits
Hasbro Family Game Night 3
Just Dance 2017
Karaoke Revolution
Madden NFL 16
MLB 15: The Show
NBA 2K17
PES 2009: Pro Evolution Soccer
Planet 51
Putty Squad System 3
NeverDead Rebellion Developments
Ra.One: The Game Trine Games
Rise of the Argonauts Liquid Entertainment
National Geographic Challenge! Gusto Games
Madagascar Kartz Sidhe
History Legends of War: Patton Enigma Software Productions S.L.
Hannah Montana: The Movie n-Space
Pictionary: Ultimate Edition Page 44 Studios
Full Auto 2: Battlelines Pseudo Interactive
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire Namco Bandai
My Body Coach Big Ben Interactive
Putty Squad System 3
Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon
NBA Live 09 EA Canada
Lego Rock Band Harmonix / Traveller's Tales
Just Dance 2018 Ubisoft Paris
Le Tour de France Cyanide Studio
Obut Pétanque Kylotonn Entertainment
NCAA Football 10 EA Tiburon
Heavy Fire: Afghanistan Mastiff
John Daly's Prostroke Golf Gusto Games
Just Dance Kids 2 Land Ho!
Lucha Libre AAA 2010: Héroes del Ring Immersion Software & Graphics
Rio [pt] THQ
NFL Head Coach 09 EA Tiburon
MX vs. ATV: Untamed Rainbow Studios
PES 2014: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Port Royale 3: Pirates & Merchants Gaming Minds Studios
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames Pandemic Studios

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Th3solution

Okay, people, the list is compiled, but my ask of you now is to peruse the list over the next 24ish hours.

-First, please let me know if you see obvious errors like a clone, an omission, or a fragment of a title.

🔶Next, as you look it over (if you can stand to put any more thought into these mediocre to awful games) pick out those you feel have been unfairly placed. Over the next 24 hours we will do a few rounds of shuffling like so:
🔸On a first come first served basis, you may pick 5 games to shuffle up or down and reposition as you wish. After everyone has had a chance to do this once, we’ll see if we have time to go around again. Or maybe even 3 times, although personally I’ll be working all day tomorrow with limits to my online time.
I want to lock the list by midnight-ish (in the US of A) tomorrow. It gives us just over 24 hours.
🔸If you do not wish to make any moves, please say “pass” so we can continue taking turns.
🔸I would ask also that if you move a game a large distance, like more than half way across the list or so, please give your reasoning and defense. For example, I don’t want someone to just drop Resident Evil 6 all the way to the very bottom without our opportunity to discuss such a large discrepancy. (With the stinkers that most of these games are, I doubt we are particularly passionate about most of them, but I’m not sure. I do want some semblance of objective reasoning if a major disagreement occurs though)
🔸For purposes of keeping up with what was moved, I think the only way is to have you copy and paste the whole list with your changes so we can see where the new positions are.

🔷Please let me know if this doesn’t make sense.🔷

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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Jaz007

@Th3solution Sounds good. Some of these games have actual merit so I think discussing would be good. I wasn't planning on giving an explanation for each game with my list of games, but I did, so I'm on board with it.

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Jaz007

@Th3solution Medieval Moves should be Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest, but it's completely my fault for leaving "Deadmund's Quest" off in my submission.
Moto GP 15 is also on the list twice.

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Th3solution

@Jaz007 Thanks, I fixed those two items on the list.

And @themcnoisy — I could’ve sworn I saw Obut Pétanque on one of the other group’s threads. I can’t remember where, but there appears to be a duplicate of it showing up elsewhere. I’ll keep it on ours for now until you clear that up where it is supposed to belong.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

themcnoisy

@Th3solution cheers bro, what an amazing job! Obut patanque 2 was in the important list I think. God knows why but I may actually pick it up! If there are duplicates the Melders will pick up on it, I wouldn't be surprised.

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

PSN: mc_noisy

RogerRoger

Resident Evil 6 Capcom
Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault Insomniac Games
MX vs. ATV Reflex Rainbow Studios
Madden NFL 10 EA Tiburon
Murdered: Soul Suspect Airtight Games
Hyperdimension Neptunia Idea Factory, Compile Heart
NHL 2K10 Visual Concepts
Genji: Days of the Blade Game Republic
MLB 16: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions
NASCAR 09 EA Tiburon
Fuse Insomniac Games
Madden NFL 11 EA Tiburon
Fritz Chess Deep Silver
NCAA Football 09 EA Tiburon
Operation Flashpoint: Red River Codemasters
Fuel Asobo Studios
Lego Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game Traveller's Tales
Lost Planet 2 Capcom
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men IO Interactive
Hunted: The Demon's Forge Bethesda Softworks
MLB 12: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
PES 2015: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom Game Republic
Grand Slam Tennis 2 EA Canada
Fracture
Hail to the Chimp
Happy Feet Two
LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Monopoly
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution
NASCAR 2014
PlayStation Move Heroes
NBA 2K8 Visual Concepts / Kush Games
Need for Speed: Shift Slightly Mad Studios
LEGO Lord Of The Rings Traveller's Tales
London 2012 Sega
Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory Idea Factory, Compile Heart
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 Tecmo Koei, Omega Force
PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures Bandai Namco Games
NCAA Football 09 EA Tiburon
LEGO Marvel's Avengers Traveller's Tales
NASCAR The Game: Inside Line Eutechnyx
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix EA UK
Madden NFL 09 EA Tiburon
Record of Agarest War Idea Factory
NHL 2K8 Visual Concepts / Kush Games
Natural Doctrine Kadokawa Games
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio
Nat Geo Challenge! Wild Life Gusto Games
Lost Planet 3 Spark Unlimited
NHL 15 EA Canada
Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days IO Interactive
NASCAR 2011: The Game Eutechnyx
Ratatouille Heavy Iron Studios
Kung Fu Panda 2 THQ
Just Dance 2016 Ubisoft Paris
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa Toys For Bob
MX vs. ATV Supercross Rainbow Studios
NASCAR Unleashed Firebrand Games
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II
Jeopardy!
Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends
Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole
Mayhem Left Field Productions
Monster Madness: Grave Danger
NCAA March Madness '08
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Jimmie Johnson's Anything with an Engine Isopod Labs
MotoGP 15 Milestone s.r.l.
NBA Ballers: Chosen One Midway Games
Medieval Moves: Deadmund’s Quest
Knights Contracts
Jurrasic: The Hunted
Monsters Vs. Aliens
Fit in Six
MX vs. ATV Alive
Lost: Via Domus Ubisoft Montreal
Legendary Spark Unlimited
NCAA Basketball '10
NBA '08
Hellboy: The Science of Evil
Major League Baseball 2K12
Little League Baseball World Series 2010
Get Up and Dance
IHF Handball Challenge
Mugen Souls
Need for Speed: ProStreet EA Black Box
Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2 Idea Factory, Compile Heart
Front Mission Evolved
Hasbro Family Game Night 3
Karaoke Revolution
Madden NFL 16
MLB 15: The Show
NBA 2K17
PES 2009: Pro Evolution Soccer
Planet 51
Putty Squad System 3
NeverDead Rebellion Developments
Rise of the Argonauts Liquid Entertainment
National Geographic Challenge! Gusto Games
Madagascar Kartz Sidhe
History Legends of War: Patton Enigma Software Productions S.L.
Hannah Montana: The Movie n-Space
Just Dance 2017
Pictionary: Ultimate Edition Page 44 Studios
Full Auto 2: Battlelines Pseudo Interactive
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire Namco Bandai
My Body Coach Big Ben Interactive
Putty Squad System 3
Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon
NBA Live 09 EA Canada
Lego Rock Band Harmonix / Traveller's Tales
Just Dance 2018 Ubisoft Paris
Le Tour de France Cyanide Studio
Obut Pétanque Kylotonn Entertainment
NCAA Football 10 EA Tiburon
Heavy Fire: Afghanistan Mastiff
John Daly's Prostroke Golf Gusto Games
Just Dance Kids 2 Land Ho!
Guitar Hero Smash Hits
Lucha Libre AAA 2010: Héroes del Ring Immersion Software & Graphics
Rio [pt] THQ
NFL Head Coach 09 EA Tiburon
MX vs. ATV: Untamed Rainbow Studios
PES 2014: Pro Evolution Soccer Konami
Port Royale 3: Pirates & Merchants Gaming Minds Studios
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames Pandemic Studios
Ra.One: The Game

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I've moved LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham and Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations up a fair few places, to avoid clumping them alongside their direct franchise brethren (which was my fault in the earlier rounds, so I'm correcting it now).

I've moved Ra.One: The Game down to the bottom, as I did the research on it and its quality is quite shocking. Also demoted Guitar Hero Smash Hits and Just Dance 2017 because, well... I did.

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@Th3solution For any other moves, I'm happy to agree with the team. So I'll say "pass" now to help speed up future rounds and help you get this locked down.

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

Frigate

I don't see anything I feel passionately enough about to move. This is the Not Important list for a reason and RE6 is at the top already 🙌. I'm going to pass the baton.

Frigate

Th3solution

@Frigate @RogerRoger
Thanks guys. This may be quicker than I anticipated.

I was looking things over and every time I think, “Hmm... that game appears to not have been given enough credit” then I look it up and see how awful it is and then realize that most of the list does look pretty appropriate. I might have a couple to shift slightly, but not much.

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