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Th3solution

Had a minute to check a couple games I was not really familiar with.

Mini Ninjas -
A relatively well received linear 3rd person action-adventure playing as ... well, mini ninjas. Different playable characters with unique traits. Decent reception - about 75 meta.
Existing

Mind jack -
Very poorly received due to poor technical implementation, graphically poor. Reviews in the 5 range. Actually had some interesting futuristic ideas but just incredibly poorly realized and didn’t influence gaming at all.
Pointless

Midnight Club LA -
A fairly popular arcade racing series, this was the last entry of the series (except for a PSP adaptation). Meta of 82, well received. Had licensed vehicles and courses were based on real Los Angeles streets. Seems a pretty strong game technically and artistically. For some reason though this game ended the series. Maybe because Rockstar couldn’t justify spending studio development time on anything other than the GTA cash cow.
Important

Midway Arcade Origins -
A collection of classic arcade games like Marble Madness, Spy Hunter, Rampage, and Gauntlet for example. Lukewarm critical reception, Meta 59. Apparently many of the games suffered from technical problems and poor controls. Reminds me a little of the PlayStation Classic. The original arcade games were definitely important, but this version is probably ...
Not Important

Metro Last Light -
A game series I always wanted to get around to; it was a sequel to Metro 2033 and had the recent sequel Exodus on PS4, is apparently a single player FPS praised for its solid story, wonderful atmosphere and visuals. Gameplay is not anything earth shattering, but isn’t especially bad per se.
Important

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

themcnoisy

@Th3solution cheers Sol. Will compile my final list tonight.

Good work troops we will have this result in by Saturday at this rate!

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

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mookysam

I've recently got into the Metal Gear Solid series, playing the first four in quite quick succession. Playing MGS4 for the first time ten years after its initial release was interesting, because I could see how a lot of it, on the surface, was very much a product of its time. The oft-mocked brown and grey of the era is out in force, for instance. However, the game is truly exceptional. The story. The themes. It wrapped up everything from 1-3 so beautifully, referencing everything and everyone of importance. It was criticised for its long cut scenes, but for me they're the best part of the game - some of them are truly thrilling. The game felt like such a fitting end to the whole saga. Just superb. And the end of chapter 4 where you fight in a Metal Gear Rex... How is that not the most awesome thing ever?! Plus the final boss fight with the music changing from theme to theme. Niiiice.

MGS3 is particularly superb too. I loved the James Bondishness of it. Plus the whole finale both battling the Shagohod and the wonderful cutscene with The Boss.. I've also had the Snake Eater theme in my head ever since.

mookysam

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themcnoisy

Madden NFL 15 EA Tiburon - Existing

Madden NFL 16 EA Tiburon - Not Important

Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon - Not Important

Madden NFL 25 EA Tiburon - Important

Major League Baseball 2K11 Visual Concepts - Existing

Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts - Not Important

Major League Baseball 2K13 Visual Concepts - Pointless

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Platinum Games - Important

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Kojima Productions - Important

🎮 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Kojima Productions - Very Important

🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Kojima Productions - Existing

🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Kojima Productions - Very Important

Metro: Last Light 4A Games - Very Important

Michael Jackson: The Experience Ubisoft Montreal - Existing

Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions - Not Important

Midnight Club: Los Angeles Rockstar San Diego - Important

🎮 Midway Arcade Origins Backbone Entertainment - Existing

Mindjack feel plus - Pointless

🎮 Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition 4j Studios - Very Important

🎮 Minecraft: Story Mode Telltale Games - Existing

Mini Ninjas IO Interactive - Existing

🎮 Mirror's Edge EA Digital Illusions CE - Important

MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Not Important

MLB 08: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing

MLB 09: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important

MLB 10: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Very Important

MLB 11: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important

Edited on by themcnoisy

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

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Gremio108

@mookysam Yeah, I played MGS4 for the first time in 2015, I think. I had a similar experience with it. The cut-scenes felt like they dragged at points in the earlier games, but in MGS4 I barely noticed it.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

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themcnoisy

@mookysam Im a big fan of every mainline MGS game. I don't think there is a bad one.

Forum Best Game of All Time Awards

Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

PSN: mc_noisy

RogerRoger

Sorry for being late to the party, comrades. Busy week was busy. As such, I'm gonna skip straight to my final, locked-in categorisations and give brief justifications below.

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Madden NFL 15 - Existing
Madden NFL 16 - Not Important
Madden NFL 17 - Not Important
Madden NFL 25 - Important
Major League Baseball 2K11 - Existing
Major League Baseball 2K12 - Not Important
Major League Baseball 2K13 - Pointless
🎮 Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - Very Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - Existing
🎮 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - Very Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - Very Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Very Important
Metro: Last Light - Important
Michael Jackson: The Experience - Not Important
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor - Not Important
Midnight Club: Los Angeles - Important
Midway Arcade Origins - Existing
Mindjack - Pointless
Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition - Important
Minecraft: Story Mode - Existing
Mini Ninjas - Existing
🎮 Mirror's Edge - Very Important
MLB 07: The Show - Not Important
MLB 08: The Show - Existing
MLB 09: The Show - Important
MLB 10: The Show - Very Important
MLB 11: The Show - Important

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Where obvious, I've just supported the research and / or feedback from others. Folks who've indicated that they've played the game in question get precedence!

Apologies for the low ranking of the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection. Whilst it's unquestionably the very best way to experience MGS2: Sons of Liberty and MGS3: Snake Eater, we're here to judge the collection release itself, not the individual components. Both of those games I'd award the highest honours if we were judging their PS2 versions, but I have issues with giving re-releases and / or remasters anything higher than "Important" (remakes are different). And then there's the lack of Metal Gear Solid itself, the PSone classic that rebooted the franchise and secured its popularity for all time.

The damning nail in the coffin, however, is the port of MGS: Peace Walker. It's not great. I'm not a huge fan of the game anyway, although the story and soundtrack are excellent, but I have an objective objection to the stop-start gameplay, re-use of tiny environments and repetitive grinding to see the "true" ending. Not only that, but it was a PSP game designed to be played co-operatively, and yet they didn't take that into consideration when porting it to the PS3, which is single player only. This makes some of the boss encounters drag on way, way too long (the battle with Peace Walker is designed for four players to attack it, not one, but they left its health bar at maximum and so draining it becomes a boring, resource-draining slog). Of all the franchises that needed forced multiplayer... I'm sure it worked great in Japan (and indeed, the Japanese version of the HD Collection didn't contain Peace Walker, because it was selling great guns on PSP as a digital download and everybody was playing it together) but over here, we got an badly-thought-out, rushed port, simply because the plot was important to forthcoming games. I'd call it borderline "Existing" / "Not Important" and that, coupled with the lack of the PSone original, drags down the overall score for me.

Genuinely feel awful about that, but I'm trying real hard to be objective here.

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance is a game I never thought I'd enjoy. I played the demo and really struggled to get a handle on the gameplay, but got it at launch because I think Raiden might be my favourite Metal Gear character of all time. After having a rough time with the first couple levels, everything suddenly clicked. It's a challenging-yet-fair, spectacularly gorgeous experience with memorable characters, a unique and deliberate tone, technical complexity and some surprisingly prescient things to say about modern society. PlatinumGames does it again. Amazing.

I have actually played Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on PS3 (not my copies; I've completed both, fully, on PS4 but have experienced them briefly on PS3 and can therefore speak to the only major difference, a lower graphical resolution and very, very temporary framerate slowdown in sporadic parts). So whilst I'm counting them as games I've played up there, it's kinda a technicality, and therefore won't mind if @Jaz007 reads this and wants to only count my vote once. As for the games themselves, they're examples of what MGS: Peace Walker should've been. I'll defend them to the death.

Mirror's Edge had such a cult following and reverence (until Catalyst came along and ruined everything) that I can't rank it anything other than "Very Important". It's a beautiful game to play, one I'd probably rank a bracket lower if I were judging it in a vacuum, but those few intervening years of it being mentioned in hushed whispers, praised and revered, give it extra cultural weight beyond its box. Plus it launched at the peak of the "brown shooter era" and so was a pretty bold, mould-breaking statement piece as a result.

Thanks to everybody who's done the heavy lifting elsewhere this week, especially @themcnoisy with all those sports games; that would've taken me a lot of Google time!

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Making It So Since 1987

RogerRoger

@mookysam I didn't need to elaborate on my reasoning for giving MGS4: Guns of the Patriots top honours, because you've said it all so well. Thank you!

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Making It So Since 1987

themcnoisy

@RogerRoger thank you. I'm in the same boat playing them on Ps4 and I am rating them as such. Prolly the wrong way to do it.

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Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7

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RogerRoger

@themcnoisy As long as you can find evidence to suggest that the content and gameplay is the same, and it's just the graphics and framerate that differ between the versions, then I'd say cross-generational impressions are valid. It's why I'm grateful for @Jaz007 @Th3solution and @ZeD highlighting that the nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor was removed from the PS3 version, because that's where you start to have a real impact on considering a game's ranking.

You can watch some MGSV PS3 gameplay on YouTube and it's amazing. At times, you'd swear you were watching footage captured from the PS4 version.

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Making It So Since 1987

Frigate

Thanks for sharing your thoughts this week, all. My time has been very slim but I'll get to my rankings today and use your opinions as bearings, especially on the games I haven't played.

Frigate

Jaz007

Madden NFL 15 EA Tiburon - Existing
Madden NFL 16 EA Tiburon - Not Important
Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon - Not Important
Madden NFL 25 EA Tiburon - Important
Major League Baseball 2K11 Visual Concepts - Existing
Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts - Not Important
Major League Baseball 2K13 Visual Concepts - Pointless
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Platinum Games - Important
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Kojima Productions - Important
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Kojima Productions - Very Important
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Kojima Productions - Existing
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Kojima Productions - Very Important
Metro: Last Light 4A Games - Very Important
Michael Jackson: The Experience Ubisoft Montreal - Existing
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions - Not Important
Midnight Club: Los Angeles Rockstar San Diego - Important
Midway Arcade Origins Backbone Entertainment - Existing
Mindjack feel plus - Pointless
🎮 Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition 4j Studios - Important
Minecraft: Story Mode Telltale Games – not important
Mini Ninjas IO Interactive - Existing
🎮 Mirror's Edge EA Digital Illusions CE - Important
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Not Important
MLB 08: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing
MLB 09: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important
MLB 10: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Very Important
MLB 11: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Frigate

Ok, I said today yesterday, so the day after yesterday, today, will have to be the day. Without further ado, drum roll please...

Madden NFL 15 EA Tiburon - Existing
Madden NFL 16 EA Tiburon - Not Important
🎮Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon - Existing
Madden NFL 25 EA Tiburon - Not Important
Major League Baseball 2K11 Visual Concepts - Existing
Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts - Not Important
Major League Baseball 2K13 Visual Concepts - Pointless
🎮Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Platinum Games - Existing
🎮Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Kojima Productions - Important
🎮Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Kojima Productions - Very Important
🎮Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Kojima Productions - Existing
🎮Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Kojima Productions - Important
🎮Metro: Last Light 4A Games - Existing
Michael Jackson: The Experience Ubisoft Montreal - Pointless
🎮Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions - Existing
🎮Midnight Club: Los Angeles Rockstar San Diego - Important
Midway Arcade Origins Backbone Entertainment - Not Important
Mindjack feel plus - Pointless
Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition 4j Studios - Important
Minecraft: Story Mode Telltale Games – Not important
🎮Mini Ninjas IO Interactive - Existing
🎮 Mirror's Edge EA Digital Illusions CE - Important
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Not Important
MLB 08: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing
🎮MLB 09: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing
MLB 10: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing
MLB 11: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing

Lock it up like Martin Johnson in 2003

Frigate

Th3solution

Dragging in from behind...

Madden NFL 15 EA Tiburon - Existing
Madden NFL 16 EA Tiburon - Not Important
Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon - Not Important
Madden NFL 25 EA Tiburon - Important
Major League Baseball 2K11 Visual Concepts - Existing
Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts - Not Important
Major League Baseball 2K13 Visual Concepts - Pointless
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Platinum Games - Important
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Kojima Productions - Very Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Kojima Productions - Very Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Kojima Productions - Important
🎮 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Kojima Productions - Very Important
Metro: Last Light 4A Games - Important
Michael Jackson: The Experience Ubisoft Montreal - Existing
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions - Not Important
Midnight Club: Los Angeles Rockstar San Diego - Important
Midway Arcade Origins Backbone Entertainment - Not Important
Mindjack feel plus - Pointless
Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition 4 Studios - Very Important
Minecraft: Story Mode Telltale Games - Existing
Mini Ninjas IO Interactive - Existing
Mirror's Edge EA Digital Illusions CE - Important
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Not Important
MLB 08: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Existing
MLB 09: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important
MLB 10: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Very Important
MLB 11: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - Important

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Jaz007

Alright team, final results.
Madden NFL 15 EA Tiburon –EXISTING
Madden NFL 16 EA Tiburon - NOT IMPORTANT
Madden NFL 17 EA Tiburon - NOT IMPORTANT
Madden NFL 25 EA Tiburon –IMPORTANT
Major League Baseball 2K11 Visual Concepts –EXISTING
Major League Baseball 2K12 Visual Concepts - NOT IMPORTANT
Major League Baseball 2K13 Visual Concepts –POINTLESS
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Platinum Games –IMPORTANT
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Kojima Productions –IMPORTANT
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Kojima Productions - VERY IMPORTANT
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Kojima Productions –IMPORTANT
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Kojima Productions - VERY IMPORTANT
Metro: Last Light 4A Games - IMPORTANT
Michael Jackson: The Experience Ubisoft Montreal –EXISTING
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor Monolith Productions - NOT IMPORTANT
Midnight Club: Los Angeles Rockstar San Diego –IMPORTANT
Midway Arcade Origins Backbone Entertainment –EXITING
Mindjack feel plus –POINTLESS
Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition 4j Studios –IMPORTANT
Minecraft: Story Mode Telltale Games –EXISTING
Mini Ninjas IO Interactive –EXISTING
Mirror's Edge EA Digital Illusions CE –IMPORTANT
MLB 07: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - NOT IMPORTANT
MLB 08: The Show SCE San Diego Studio — EXISTING
MLB 09: The Show SCE San Diego Studio –IMPORTANT
MLB 10: The Show SCE San Diego Studio - VERY IMPORTANT
MLB 11: The Show SCE San Diego Studio –IMPORTANT

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Jaz007

@Th3Solution May 18-30th I'll be out of town and unable to tally up the votes and such. Would you be able to tally the votes and such during that time?

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Th3solution

@Jaz007 Sure thing, boss. Be happy to. 😃
I don’t know of any conflicts I have as of now. Are you traveling for business or pleasure?

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Jaz007

@Th3solution Pleasure. I''m having a nice vacation visiting a girl and her family.

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

Th3solution

@Jaz007 Sounds awesome! Glad to do my part to make it an enjoyable escape for you. Just remind me when we get closer as I have a tendency to forget things more than 2-3 days in advance. 😜

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

TowaHerschel7

@themcnoisy Why is our team getting almost all of the trash games?

Again haven't played them and am going to be virtually no help with these kinds of games. I'm a JRPG and Japanese games buff, I might as well not even be here at this point besides the time when we voted on the ToCS games...

I do play western games too, but these ones are...uh...pretty low caliber releases. I don't mind some sports games either, but this is just...WOW

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