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Topic: Please Sony, bring PSVR 2 to the PS5!

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Jaz007

@BAMozzy To be fair, I think veryone on the planet get migraines from the virtual boy. Most games allow you to keep seated too. While some like Astrobot benefit from getting for a new angle, or may help with immersion (Arkham VR and Raw Data), I think it would worth giving it a shot if you get the chance. They also have 360 YouTube videos that do stuff like walking across a glass bridge at the Grand Canyon. There might be the lower resolution to consider, but more expensive PC VR sets probably don’t have that issue. I would say half of what you’re looking for is there in way. I know they have VR chat rooms and stuff on PC.
Something like Skyrim with a high resolution (don’t even bother with the PS4 versions resolution) might also help with wanting look at landscapes and such, even if they’re not the real ones you want.

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themcnoisy

@BAMozzy Where do u live Bam? I can bring mine round if I'm down that way so you can have a go.

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Gremio108

@BAMozzy Excellent post, for me you've touched on the really exciting possibilities for VR here. While I'm definitely excited for the potential of VR gaming (haven't tried it myself yet, but only because I can't afford it at the mo) the social aspects are something I've always wondered about.

A friend of mine lives in Japan, so I only see him when he's back in the UK. But imagine being able to 'meet up' in a virtual space, or chew the fat while hiking to the top of Mount Everest, or on a bike ride through the Black Forest. And like you say, the potential impact it could have for people with disabilities could be absolutely enormous.

While I'm not sure the kind of things we're talking about are going to happen just yet (although really I can't see much reason why not), the social side of VR is definitely where I can see Sony going with PSVR 2.

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JohnnyShoulder

Yeah I'm with @BAMozzy with VR, couldn't care less for it. No games have really stuck out for me as must buy. For me to be even remotely interested in VR, it would be need smaller, wireless, guaranteed no sickness and higher resolution.
I get queasy really easy, even on the 30 minutes bus journey to work sometimes, so there is now way I'm even gonna try VR unless there is a guarantee of not feeling sick from it.

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Arugula

@JohnnyShoulder That was my issue with it. Sickness. I received it as a Christmas gift in 2017 and sold it about 3 months later. Got down to where I play about 10 minutes at a time then taking a break without getting sick which for me just isn't worth it.

As an experience it's awesome, I'll never forget the first time I tried it and played Rigs but I just couldn't get past the ultra limited playtime and the sickness it induced.

I hope it's a success but at this time it's just not for me.

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BAMozzy

@Jaz007 I know a LOT of people had issues with Virtual Boy. Its still the ONLY console I have sold without replacing it for a different, but same family replacement. I have traded some consoles to get a 'newer' variation - like trading my OG Xbox (Black) for a Crystal version for example but that's still keeping in the same family. I have always suffered from motion sickness - except when I could drive. 3D TV also gives me a headache and hurts my eyes but that's a different tech I know. I just don't see me getting value from PSVR and the hassle of setting it up to play. No game seems worth the cost and hassle... yet. Most games look like they could work on a flat TV.

@themcnoisy Thanks for the offer mate but I am quite a long way South - between Gloucester and Bristol - and really not worth the drive down just to try something that I have no intention of buying. I have enough issues with medication making me feel sick without adding gaming to it. Like I said, its only something I am interested in for social reasons because I am extremely limited to go anywhere due to health and therefore, VR could open up a lot of opportunity - albeit in a virtual world. Get to see some 'bucket list' places that I know I will never get to see in reality. Video games, when I can play, are as much about escaping my current situation - perhaps more so than just a 'fun' past-time. MP games are me being able to compete with others on a fairly even playing ground and co-op is my 'socialising'. I would love to add VR into my 'socialising' and enabling me to do even some of the basic things that others (and myself used to) take for granted, like going to the cinema or going to a pub with friends. Its that side of things that I want VR for.

@Gremio108 It does seem that VR is primarily gaming focussed - particularly on Playstation. I do think that if they were to focus a lot on Social uses, Playstation Home VR for example, then Sony would shift millions of headsets. Instead of watching their PSX being streamed and having a 'chat' with typed conversation, you could be transported to the best seat in the house with friends all having a chat over 'Party chat' just like you could if you actually were there with friends. There are endless possibilities - you could see your favourite band/artist on tour in Brazil or Japan without actually leaving the house. You could go shopping and sight-seeing in Tokyo, New York, London and Paris all in one day if you wanted - whether on your own, or with friends/family. You could walk on the moon or even visit a virtual Jurassic Park. Point is, you can visit any place - whether its a real place like the Louvre or Sydney Opera House or fantasy like Jurassic Park or Endor to see the Ewoks. You can visit any time period - whether you want to spend time in Victorian London or 1800's Wild West US, maybe even the middle ages or what about more fantasy places like Westeros or futuristic times like the Los Angeles that Blade Runner is set in for example or the futuristic Earth that Star Trek presents us with. The opportunities are endless and these places don't necessarily have to be visited in the context of a 'game' either...

I don't know how difficult it would be to offer these opportunities via VR but it can't be to difficult to offer some of these. Watching the World Cup Final from the best seat in the stadium or watching a concert performance in Sydney Opera House should only require a 360 degree camera in that 'seat'. The money they could make too for selling a ticket to these events - which would (or should) be cheaper than flights, accommodation, etc would easily cover the cost of the cameras and personnel to run them. Merchandise could be sold as well and shipped to you rather than you visiting the gift shop to buy.

Like I said, you could attend E3, PSX and Gamescom too. I wonder if you would get motion sickness by sitting down at console and playing a game on a 'virtual' TV as if you were actually at Gamescom and sat in front of a real TV? I think that perhaps you wouldn't because you can look around and feel like you are actually sat in a chair with a TV in front of you. You could essentially play all the demo's at these events without 'queueing' up because you are there 'virtually' and the demo is playing in the cloud so wouldn't necessarily need to have very powerful hardware to run both the VR and game software...

Anyway, I have gone on long enough - yet again - but its those possibilities that appeal to me far more than VR gaming. I know I mentioned playing games at Gamescom for example but that is more 'gaming in VR rather than VR gaming if that makes sense. I want VR to open up more social activities and opportunities rather than sticking me in a game...

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NathanUC

I would be happy if we used the same headset, but with better controllers/tracking. I think the current gen headset has high enough resolution that early gen PS5 games would still look great.

A PSVR Pro headset would be nice to see later though. Wider FOV is a must.

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themcnoisy

@JohnnyShoulder I have a list of maybe 5 games which will not make you sick. I'm awful travel sick but have found the sweets pot and know when to put it down. If you haven't been convinced to give it a try yet, we'll I will have no chance but imo it's better than flat screen gaming no question. It's too good.

@Frigate You started with Rigs!? Omg that's hardcore. Did you try any no movement games?

@BAMozzy In Astrobot you do feel in the world. Its crazy the way your brain takes the information in. The first time I looked right around and could still see the game was properly weird.

@nathanUC a better fov of around 10 degrees would be spot on without going crazy. I do think the blurriness effects games were you have to look in the distance though so a better resolution is a must for me.

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Arugula

@themcnoisy I did. The most memorable was the excellent Statik which has minimal movement but still, any more than 10 minutes at a time put me laying on my back for half an hour.

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themcnoisy

@Frigate bloomin heck that's complete intolerance to VR. Statik is my favourite PSVR game. I had literally just bought a new leather couch when I set up the VR. It smelt like the Statik world (well rooms anyway) very sterile as the couch was brand new. So I had the sights, sounds, touch (due to the gameplay on ds4) and smells. Pure VR. No idea how you could get sick to Statik. Maybe it was setup wrong.

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Arugula

@themcnoisy It could've been a few different things. I definitely remember how purely unwell I felt and eventually I packed it neatly back in its box and put it in the closet eventually letting my wife trade it against the GoW PS4 Pro. I'd love to try Astro Bot and if they rejig it for PS5 I'd try it again because I do really like it.

Arugula

PSVR_lover

PSVR has solid sales and I do believe Sony will keep improving the systems. However, I don’t think VR will ever be mainstream, but will bring in solid enough sales to continue.

The PSVR is the best VR system on the market today.

DigiTM

Bought the first one and it's now sitting in a box in the cupboard.
I didn't get sick but I broke out in a massive cold sweat and my partner said I went pale as a ghost. Maybe I should plug it back in and give it another go and see if that condition has improved.
Only downfall is it will break my HDR support since I was the sucker that bought the first version which Sony stuffed up. Sony rejected my claim to swap out to new HDR version.

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themcnoisy

@DigiTM what game did you play?

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themcnoisy

@DigiTM that made me a tad sick. Play Statik, batman or Astrobot.

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PSVR_lover

Resident Evil 7 should be a safe bet to play as well.

The PSVR is the best VR system on the market today.

WebHead

I expect PSVR2 in 2021. In 2019 new stuff like Valve Index and Oculus Quest has released. Compared to those PSVR is starting to look pretty outdated.

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