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Topic: Nintendo Life's been redesigned

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BAMozzy

@get2sammyb: Change isn't always scary - it can be exciting too - look at new generational consoles, VR etc. However some changes can be detrimental or made just for the sake of making a change. Not all changes are for the better. There is also a motto of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'.

Nintendo Life, not only being a mess, also borrows heavily from Microsoft (tiles) as well as trying to look hip and cool with 'trending' options but comes across assomething aimed for kids rather than a serious place for news and additional ways of clickbait with multiple links to artcles etc everywhere! Not only that, its also increased the number of ads disguised as articles slotted in with all the other 'relevant' tiles - Another reason to ensure Ad-block is permanently on although you do end up with a checkerboard tile look with white gaps everywhere! 1-2 ads are acceptable but no way do I want to see them as frequent as they are on NL. No way will I turn off ad-block if they are so in your face as they are on that site and I will recommend eberyone else use an ad-blocker too! It speaks of selling out and whilst I appreciate running a site like this must have overheads, I am willing to accept, I am not willing to put up with the implementation that both NL and n4g employ. However if that is the only way to sort out the news from the ads at a quick glance and avoid accidental clicks so be it.

I very much doubt you would be happy if Sony adopted the Microsoft tile style layout for its dashboard and included multiple ads inbetween your relevant tiles with links everywhere to stuff you are not interested in, transformed its simple yet straight forward and clean design to a mess of boxes all over the screen - would you? I think most of the PS Community would be very critical of Sony if the copied MS on this!

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Tasuki

@BAMozzy: Sadly though I would have to disagree with your choice of add block. As annoying as those ads are it's how the site pays for itself. So it is a necessary thing. Yeah I know people have said oh they wouldn't mind a fee but honestly I think that's a bad idea. Maybe something along the lines of a Pateron (not sure if that's spelled right) might be a solution. But that's something I can't say if it's viable or not.

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BAMozzy

@Tasuki: I have no issue with the odd advert or the way Darksiders is currently being implemented on PushSquare but what I object to is where they are made to look like an article in style and size, in the main body and are numerous in number. In a standard Tile grid for example, sites like N4G use the same size Tile linking to the news article as they do for an ad and these ads are also in the main body too

for example, if 0 represents an article and A represents an Ad,

0 0 A 0
A 0 0 0
0 A 0 0

Whilst ads are a necessary evil of todays commercial culture and therefore understand their necessity to the continuation of sites like PushSquare, I do not appreciate them occupying the same 'space' and size as the reason I came to the site in the first place. As I said I have no issue with the way Darksiders is currently advertised as its not in the main body and whilst it does occupy more space, the fact its a 'background' makes it far less obtrusive. Ads should not appear in the main body and certainly shouldn't have the same 'value' (size, placement etc) as the reason we visit but should be more peripheral and if someone wants to click, more deliberate. The tile format makes it so easy to accidentally click on these in error as they are mixed in with all the articles.

Point I am making is that there is a way to do adverts that is more acceptable than others. It of course could be irrelevant as Sammy has stated the design is bespoke - hopefully taking design cues from Sony and keeping ads yo the more peripheral edges.

I have no issue with turning an ad-block off for sites that are well designed and keep adverts to right size and placement but I also have no qualms about turning it on either or finding my news from the plethora of other sites covering gaming if access was denied as a result of using an ad-blocker.

I certainly am not adverse to change but I also know not all change is for the better. Some changes can really enhance an experience whilst others can make a great experience into a frustrating and poor one. Time will tell which direction PushSquare goes...

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BAMozzy

@get2sammyb: As I said Sammy, and I know you probably won't like this, but if I feel they are too much, in my face and/or feel they are annoying in any way, then I have NO issue with using an ad-blocker. Whether that means I am no longer welcome here, so be it! I know losing 1-2 people isn't really going to make much difference to your traffic and figures of course but I don't visit for the ads and whilst I will accept a few unobtrusive ads for the sake of ensuring a site survives, if they affect my experience, they are gone or I am.

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Octane

I still visit the NLife forums every day, since I'm a moderator; however, I rarely visit the main page. It's too cumbersome to navigate, and the only reason I visit the main page these days is to check on alerts.

Also agree with @BAMozzy; not a big fan of how the ads are concealed as articles. I'd rather pay for a subscription based service that gets rid of the ads altogether.

Octane

Rudy_Manchego

As someone who works in web based software, I feel for anyone having to implement a new site, especially when the existing one works pretty well. The key thing for me on any website is 1) Can I easily see what content is relevant to me and 2) Can I access that content quickly and elegantly on whatever device I have?

I am sure the new site will be grand. As for ads, they are a necessary evil and I don't mind as long as it doesn't interrupt or get in the way of my user experience. I think the PS content is ace and am happy to click off to ads to support it.

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get2sammyb

The key thing we've wanted to change with this redesign is to promote more content. The current layout is great for people who visit several times a day, but we're producing so much more stuff than we used to, that we've had a problem making sure it all gets seen by the people who visit maybe two or three times a week.

I think we've nailed it personally. I hope you're all going to love it.

Edited on by get2sammyb

Splat

get2sammyb wrote:

We're not adopting the Nintendo Life style. It's completely bespoke for Push Square.

That's good. It's terrible.

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BAMozzy

@get2sammyb: More content can make things look messy and busy. More content doesn't always mean better either. Change can be good thing but also bad - Content and Change hasn't helped CoD and yet their developers would say they thought their community would like it.

The new website isn't going to be perfect from my perspective - it can't be if it has ads! That being said we can still accept things that aren't perfect or even ideal - again to use gaming as examples, Bloodbourne wasn't ideal at 30fps and games like the Witcher 3 and the Last Guardian are far from perfect as they both suffer technical issues which shows that if everything else is great we can tolerate some minor aspect. Of course if these games were regularly at 20fps, I am sure that that would have a greater impact than the quality elsewhere.

I of course am not criticising something I haven't yet seen. All I am saying is that we as gamers have heard similar comments about our favourite franchise and are generally used to 'not ideal or perfect' situations although if something is particularly bad, it takes a lot away from the quality everywhere else. Sometimes change can work and other times not. I am glad though you are not taking your design queues from NL, N4G and Microsoft!

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Splat

It look's like a totally mess just like I feared... I'm probably going to spend less time on the site.

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"I reckon I'M gonna have to climb that thing." ~ Nathan Drake

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Rudy_Manchego

CHANGE!!!!!

I quite like it. Not sure on the blue. Or the weird crosses, triangle, squares and circles either. I mean, what are they about?

I'm going to have to change my avatar - I feel out of date now.

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crippyd

@get2sammy Just a quick question, where's the unread topics button gone? I feel a little lost without it.

crippyd

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